Date: Sat, 14 Sep 96 10:24:16 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V9 #34 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Sat, 14 Sep 96 Volume 9 : Issue 34 Today's Topics: [Q] gtar for a 4.1.3 sparc needed Any Sun2's still out there? Booting a 3/50 from tape Building a shoebox Device Not Found? Modem on 3/60 ??? Sun 3/160 upgrade Sun 3/60 Dead Monitor Suns-at-Home Digest V9 #33 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home \ | | Requests: suns-at-home-request > @net-kitchen.com | | Archives: suns-at-home-archives / | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:07:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jens.Baedeker@zu.NET Subject: [Q] gtar for a 4.1.3 sparc needed To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hello, i need a gtar for my 'SunOS einfach 4.1.3 4 sun4c'. I tried to compile some gtar versions without success. Is there a sun binary archive available ? regrads Jens - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:53:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Kosack Subject: Any Sun2's still out there? To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Just out of curiosity, are there any Sun 2 systems still out there in use, or have they all bitten the dust and gone to that big computer land in the sky? I still see a decent amount of support for Sun 3, but there's not even a peep about the Sun 2 anymore. They're of "similar" architecture (m68k based) so I assumed there might still be some news regarding them, but not sure. Of course, with machines that will, for the most part, barely do 8MB RAM, you probably can't get much more out of them. I would like to at least play with one, because I have a thing for Suns and would like to see what they're like. Plus, I like the challange of an older architecture to bring up to speed. Are there any still out there to be had? I have my first Sun 3 coming tomorrow. I've run/used SPARCs for years now, and I've been on a few Sun 3's, but now I can call one my own, which is an awesome feeling. :) Daniel Kosack kosack@fred.net - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 96 15:03:59 EDT From: Brian Palmer Subject: Booting a 3/50 from tape To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hi all, Can a 3/50 boot from an Archive 2150S (QIC-150) tape drive? I've had no success making the above work. The boot tape itself is a QIC-24 (60 meg) tape. Is PROM version 2.8 the last produced for the 3/50? Thanks, Brian - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 13:13:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Sampson Subject: Building a shoebox To: Craig Dewick > From: Craig Dewick > Subject: Building a shoebox > To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com > > > 2. will a Jaz drive work? (crazy idea?) > I have never had one to try, but I'm of the opinion that it would. I just put a Jaz drive on my Sparcstation 1 yesterday, and it works fine. (I do get a SCSI command error when it tries to mode sense the drive on boot and when disklabeling, but that didn't prevent me from labelling it, newfsing it and mounting it. Also, it could just be that I need to compile up a more recent kernel.) I'm just starting a recompilation of my entire NetBSD system now. I don't see any reason why you couldn't boot from the drive, either. (The drive comes with tips for making bootable disks under Windows and DOS.) Of course, it essentially becomes non-removable media then, because you can't take it out without shutting down the machine, but it would be a nifty way to have both SunOS and NetBSD on the machine. > > 4. what is the better OS to run SunOS or NetBSD? > SunOS is more complete, but NetBSD is continually evolving and so isn't left > behind in the development stakes. SunOS 4.1.1u1, the last version of SunOS > to support Sun-3's, was released in 1990, so it's getting quite dated now. I'm not sure what you mean by SunOS being `more complete'. I would think it would be NetBSD that would be more complete, since it has more tools, utilities, and features (excepting the odd thing like integrated VM/buffer cache). cjs - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 23:27:27 +0000 From: "Jay Arnold" Subject: Device Not Found? To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I just inherited a 4/110 sans keyboard and cable and am trying to get the thing to work. It has a problem with the keyboard, perhaps a bad connector or fuse, but I am able to communicate with it via a Mac and serial port. My current problem is with the shoebox. During startup, I get the banner message, get the autoboot message, EEPROM boot sd(0,0,0) and finally a "Device Not Found" message. The shoebox contains a tape drive (sorry, I can't figure out its capacity, but it takes a side loading tape), and a 350MB hard drive. I have a db50-db50 scsi cable going from the CPU to the scsi-out of the shoebox and the internal shoebox cabling appears to be complete. During diagnostic startup, one of the self-tests (DMA something or other) correctly reports that the shoebox is off if it is, so I think that means that that my scsi cable is okay. When I fire up the shoebox, the tape drive grunts, and the hard-drive spins up. The green LED on the tape drive controller flashes continuously as does the green LED on the ESDI-SCSI controller. Playing around with the monitor, I have tried b sd(0,1,0), b sd(0,3,0), both with the same "Device Not Found" result. I would greatly appreciate any help possible. TIA Jay Arnold - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:49:47 -0400 From: tfd@mindspring.com (Christian Rohde) Subject: Modem on 3/60 ??? To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com hi, I have recently set up a 3/60 at home, and am wondering how I can hook up a modem to it to get access to the internet. Here's what I need to know: first, can one hook up a 28.8 US robotics modem to the sun, which uses the standard serial port connector? Can the serial port of the 3/60 support this speed? I have a local ppp dialup service, is there a PPP or TCP for the modem settings (dial up number, speed etc) in Sun OS? Does Sun OS have a FTP routine, I could use to get a better FTP software from the net? Will gunzip do as a unstuffer, for the files pulled off the net? Does anybody have experience with making a Sun 3/60 talk to a Macintosh via ethernet? Perhaps even use a ISDN modem hooked up to a Mac via ethernet connection on the Sun? Many thanks in advance, regards, Chris - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:25:54 -0700 From: rolf@la-playa.ucsd.edu (Rolf Schreiber) Subject: Sun 3/160 upgrade To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I'm helping a school with an old donated Sun 3/160 upgrade the system to a Sun 3/260. In looking at an old Sun Field Engineer Handbook, under the Configurations section there are a couple of notes about upgrading: 1. Sun-3/160 systems using the Pioneer or ETA Pwer Supply require FCO 807-0068 to upgrade to a Sun-3/260, Sun-3/460, Sun-4/260, or Sun-4/360. 2. Sun-3/160 systems manufactured prior to July 1987 (serial number 724E2223) require FCO 808-0067 to upgrade to a Sun-3/260, Sun-4/260, or Sun-4/360. As it turns out, this particular Sun-3/160 meets both criteria (it has an ETA power supply). I've scoured what limited hardware docs I have to determine what components/changes the FCOs referenced above provide, to no avail. The ETA power supply in this machine is toast anyway, so at the very least it needs to be replaced. However, I"m wondering what other things are changed by the FCOs in order to successfully do the upgrade. Any suggestions or pointers to other hardware docs greatly appreciated. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 96 19:40 EDT From: adh@an.bradford.ma.us Subject: Sun 3/60 Dead Monitor To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com From: Richard M Davis Hi There, I was wondering if it's possible to connect a PC Monitor to a Sun 3/60 as my 21inch B/W monitor has died. Apparently the Power Supply is dead and the Timing Board is dead. yes. i use a sony 15sx on my ss2+ [weitek], via a 13w3-hd15 adapter. your machine probably has bncs on the back, but many multisync [pc] monitors do too; the sony 20se that came with my gateway at work had bncs. i don't know if anyone makes a bnc->hd15 cable/adaptor... - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 23:59:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Leir Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V9 #33 To: Dwight McKay Dwight, I did not know whether to reply to the list directly or to you as I am doing. [ Things you want to appear on the list should go to: ] [ suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com. Just like you sent ] [ this mesage. --ddm ] > Also can anyone give me some FTP sights for software for SunOs 4.1. I'm > perticually after a compiled tar of Emacs. A quick search for xemacs on Altavista turned up many references. (xemacs diverged from gnu emacs 5 years ago, and I prefer it) http://www.miranova.com/~steve/xemacs-faq.html#Roadmap ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/ xemacs-19.14-sparc-sun-sunos4.1.3.tar.gz This contains a set of ready-to-run executables for SunOS 4.1.x. cheers -- Rick - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************