Date: Fri, 19 May 95 21:10:25 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V8 #15 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Fri, 19 May 95 Volume 8 : Issue 15 Today's Topics: 3/60 LEDs marching on boot, no POST ? Memory Speed for SS1 and SS2 mem speeds, Mosaic on Sun3's pp0: paradise parallel port? PPP/DNS/NIS/Sendmail setup... ppp on sparc 1 running 2.4 Sun 3/50 - b le() Sun3 ESDI troubles Suns-at-Home Digest V8 #14 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home \ @harbor.ecn.purdue.edu | | Requests: suns-at-home-request > -- or -- | | Archives: suns-at-home-archives / ...rutgers!pur-ee!... | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 16:26:16 +0000 (BST) From: Alec.Muffett@UK.Sun.COM (Alec Muffett) Subject: 3/60 LEDs marching on boot, no POST ? To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu I tried booting my little diskless 3/60 today for the first time in 2..3 months, and was astonished to find it would power up, beep, and *not* boot, and all the while the "marching leds" pattern would be running, as-per it should be when Unix is live and kicking. It doesn't even seem to be doing a self-test nor any other diagnostics, and this is what happens regardless of the position of the NORM/DIAG switch. I wired a tty up yo serial port "A" at 9600-8n1 and flicked "DIAG", bounced the power off/on, and got *nothing*. Just marching LEDs. As I say, I've had this machine running fine for some considerable time now, so this has got me rather stumped. Has anyone else seen this ? - alec - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 15:20:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Toerless Eckert Subject: Memory Speed for SS1 and SS2 To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu > (according to the Field Engineer Handbook, of which I just > "happen" to have a copy...yes it has lots of jumper settings > for Sun 2's Sun 3's etc. I'm willing to pass along info, just > as long as the questions don't get overwhelming...) By the way: Sun's tearing old pages off newer releases of the FE< so don't throw away old ones if you get copies of newer ones.. > BTW, According to my FE Handbook, it doesn't describe mixing > 4mb and 1mb SIMMs. Have others out there done this? Any The FE only described "supported installation procedures". These procedures have not very much in common with "working installation procedures". > Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:48:52 -0400 > From: gcd@chandra.bgsu.edu (Comer Duncan) > Subject: question about power needs at home > To: suns-at-home@ecn.purdue.edu > > For those who read this list, many probably have Suns at home. I am > wondering what are such people's experiences with power needs at home? > Do you leave the machine on most of the time or do you turn it off and > on several times a week? I am concerned about both since it would appear I started out with a 3/280 with an additional refrigerator with 2 * 300 MB SMD disks. The 3/280 was packed with VME cards (Weitek processor card, memory cards, 32 serial interfaces, SCSI, SMD, etc, pp), The machine was big, it was loud like a starting airplane and the two power supplies had each a 2 KW rating, which they both used up to nearly 90% according to room temperature. I quickly exchanged that machine against a 4/110 which was faster, smaller, lower noise and lower power consumption. I measured about 250 W of which about 150 W come from the old 19" color Hitachi. I only had this machine at my parents so it really wasn't up to run all the time. My current sun@home is an LX which fit's neatly in a corner of the desk, together with disk, floppy, DAT and CD-ROM. Operational it runs up to about 150 W, of which 100W come from the 19" sony trinitron monitor. I've unplugged the fans from DAT and CD-ROM to reduce the noise, but due to the fact that the machine is unplugged (no internet on it), i always switch it off, when not using it. This works very neat with the power-suspend feature in solaris >= 2.4. Upon keypress this feature will save the system state to disk and power off the machine and all devices connted through the power-outlet on the LX. This takes 30 seconds. upon pressing of the power-on key on the keyboard, the LX will restore the system state in about 45 seconds and you can continue to work exactly where you left off (mostly an open frame document for me). Great stuff. - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 17:39:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Anthony D'Atri" Subject: mem speeds, Mosaic on Sun3's To: Suns-at-Home-List@ecn.purdue.edu >BTW, According to my FE Handbook, it doesn't describe mixing >4mb and 1mb SIMMs. Works just fine so long as you have each bank all the same size, and you have the bigger modules in the lower banks. Some versions of the OS reputedly have problems otherwise. I'd stay away from 60ns SIMMs for these machines -- I've had problems with them in SS2's. >* Mosaic complains bitterly about some sort of keyboard mapping stuff I'd suspect that either 1) it was compiled against X11R4 which has a strictly static location for XKeysymDB, and either can't find it, or your copy doesn't have the O$F symbols in it. Motif requires entries that MIT didn't incorporate until R5. 2) it was compiled against X11R5 but can't find XKeysymDB. Look in your XKeysymDB file for entries like osfDelete. If you don't have them, grab them from an R5 tree. If that doesn't solve the problem, try setenving XKEYSYMDB to the location of the file, which'll only work if it was compiled with R5 (and probably 6). Of course, if you're running OW, all bets are off. Or, try another browser. Chimera seems functional if perhaps austere. It's an Athena client and thus should require lots less memory than Mosaic. - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 16:33:59 -0400 From: Gordon Dey Subject: pp0: paradise parallel port? To: suns-at-home@ecn.purdue.edu I have the loan of a 3/80 from work. It's sin: old'n'slow. Anyway, it has, or gives the appearance of having, a parallel port. Dmesg identifies it as pp0. I read somewhere, that this was known by the manufacturer "paradise". Do other SAH owners know this port and how to program it? Is it bi-directional? TTL levels? PC-type parallel pin-outs? Thanks in advance, 73, Gord. znha@ve3ppe.isis.org (internet) ve3ppe@va3ks.#eont.on.can.noam (packet) - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 95 17:59:36 +0100 From: kevanh@lsl.co.uk Subject: PPP/DNS/NIS/Sendmail setup... To: suns-at-home@ecn.purdue.edu Hello, I am confused / stuck with my network setup, can you help me please... Before I got a PPP account I had a nice small little ethernet with an NIS hosts file that looked like this: 192.9.200.1 thomas # Sun 4/110 192.9.200.2 tigger # Mac SE 192.9.200.3 pb170 # Mac PB and an NIS domain called "home". Everything worked just fine, ok my Macs had to use IP numbers because I am not running DNS, but they could mount the exported CAP volumes from 'thomas' the 4/110. I have subscribed to a local ISP (Demon in the UK) and I have been given an IP number of 158.152.154.50 (is this class D?) and a domain name of redted.demon.co.uk. I now need to fit it into the above setup. The only documentation I have see so far is either for Linux with a single machine and serial port and no 'internal' network, or for class C type networks attached to the Internet, and from these I can't work out what to do for my setup. Ideally I would like to run DNS so that I can use my Macs to access the outside world, and sendmail configuration needs doing at sometime also - but this can wait until I know that I have the correct setup for everything else. Can anybody recomend some good sources/examples for setting this up? Or even advise me what to do? Many Thanks In Advance -- Kevan - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 07:26:11 -0500 (CDT) From: ltate@empros.com (Larry Tate) Subject: ppp on sparc 1 running 2.4 To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu Suns at home, I'm running a sparc 1 with solaris 2.4. I'd like to dial into my provider using this computer and with the ppp protocol. Does anyone have any information on where I can get a ppp protocol and running on solaris 2.4? I've gotten a version that runs on the Sunos 4.1 using tip, etc.. But it doesn't compile straight up. Any suggestions? Also know about a product from MorningStar that will do the job, but am trying to avoid a minimum of $400 charge. Thanks, Larry -- Larry Tate ltate@empros.com (612)536-4596 US Power, c/o Siemens Empros, 7225 Northland Dr., Brooklyn Park, MN 55428 - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 13:40:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Scott J. Ellentuch" Subject: Sun 3/50 - b le() To: suns-at-home@ecn.purdue.edu Hi, I have 2 Sun 3/50's: 1) 4M , Rom 2.8 (?) 2) 12M, Rom 2.7 (?) I've been using the 12M for the longest time on my site as a secondary DNS server. I brought the 4M home to do work on NetBSD. As it turns out, after playing with the 4M for a while it was terribly underpowered. I swapped boards since the DNS machine didn't need much horsepower. I previously was booting the 4M one from ethernet with no problems (from a Linux box). When I try to do the same with the 12M one, I get tftp time out errors. **RARP IS CORRECT, REPEAT... I UPDATED THE RARP TABLE** (Sorry, I *KNOW* people were jumping on that one). I tricked up tftp to tell me EVERYTHING, and it seems that its requesting everything fine... Just some timer is going POP and closing it down. I set the timer out FAR and it didn't change anything. I was wondering if anyone has seen this problem, and if I can possibly just swap the PROMS (Which chip # are they/is it?), or hints/tips/tricks otherwise. Thanks, Scott - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 95 09:02 PDT From: perryh@nov.intel.com Subject: Sun3 ESDI troubles To: suns-at-home-list@ecn.purdue.edu This is for the old-timers on the list. I have a venerable 3/60, still running 3.5 on a 141MB Micropolis 1355 attached via an Emulex MD21. The drive has developed a spinup problem, and its intended replacement (a Maxtor XT-8760EH) won't format. Details: Yesterday afternoon, I shut the system down to avoid overheating. When I tried to bring it back up later, the drive would not boot -- the ROM reports some kind of sd error repeated about 64 times (4 groups of 16 retries each) and then asks me to spin up the disk. I do hear the disk spin up at power on, but after maybe a minute it spins down a little, then back up, and after repeating this cycle about 4 or 5 times it spins down and stays down until power is cycled. I've tried replacing the MD21 with no effect on the problem, and the other drive on the same MD21 appears to be working OK. Power supply voltages look good. The only place I've seen such behavior previously is with a 3.5" Maxtor IDE drive, which recovers once it warms up for an hour or so, but even overnight warmup has not been enough to resurrect this 1355. There's nothing irreplaceable on it, but I'd like to avoid the reinstallation hassle if possible. Anyone seen this before? Any cures, even temporary ones? As to the Maxtor XT-8760EH, has anyone gotten one of these to work with the Sun3-Emulex MD21 combination, and if so how did you have the drive jumpered? This particular drive is reported to work properly on a PC using an Ultrastor controller, and I'm using the proper dimensions (1632 cyls x 15 heads x 53/54 sectors), but formatting fails strangely. I'm using the same approach which has worked previously with other unsupported drives, so I don't think it's pilot error in running stand/diag. * stand/diag is unable to find any defect list, and after "Extracting defects from controller" (and finding none) it reports the drive as unformatted. This is not totally surprising since it was previously formatted on a different type of controller. * When I try to format it with either 53 or 54 sectors specified, the mode select fails. That problem goes away if I specify 52 sectors, but the format fails after about 30 cylinders -- I can hear the seek between cylinders -- reporting a media error on block 0. I've tried using fewer cylinders, even fewer than 30, but always get the same failure reported. I've also tried marking the beginning of track zero as defective. TIA, and I'll summarize if there's anything to report. -- Perry Hutchison perryh@nov.intel.com Not speaking for Intel, of course - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 May 95 18:50 PDT From: jwbirdsa@picarefy.picarefy.com (James W. Birdsall) Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V8 #14 To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu John H. Sherk writes: >* Mosaic complains bitterly about some sort of keyboard mapping stuff -- > several lines worth. Also (if I recall correctly) about inability to > locate certain fonts. You need a file XKeysymDB which I believe is in the same directory. Then you need to set an environment variable XKEYSYMDB to be the absolute path to the file. With that in place, my copy doesn't complain about keymapping stuff, although it still complains about fonts. gcd@chandra.bgsu.edu (Comer Duncan) writes: >Do you leave the machine on most of the time or do you turn it off and >on several times a week? I leave several on 24 hours a day. >I am concerned about both since it would appear >that just plugging the machine plus disk[s] into a standard 115v, 60Hz >outlet might be a problem, given that most circuit breakers on home >circuits has a 15 amp fuse. Unless you're running a big VME server, you'll never get close to the circuit breaker limits. On one 15-amp circuit, I have: a 3/50, a 3/60 (with monitor), an SLC, four Sun-3 shoeboxes and two SUN0207 shoeboxes, and an old 386/20 running Linux, all running 24 hours a day. And I can still use a 1200-watt hairdrier (the bathroom is unfortunately on the same circuit as the computer room; I have lots of surge protectors) without popping the breaker. On the other hand, my 3/280 with Fujitsu Eagles requires two circuits if I want to run more than one disk at the same time. --James - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************