Date: Mon, 24 Oct 94 09:29:14 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V7 #35 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Mon, 24 Oct 94 Volume 7 : Issue 35 Today's Topics: 3/60 ethernet error... cheap printers ERROR: missing or invalid ID prom free PPP with PSI's Interramp? Idiots who can't unsubscribe properly MorningStar PPP New Sun User problem compiling ghostview 1.5 on 3/60 running 4.1.1u1 Suns-at-Home Digest V7 #34 X11R6 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home \ @harbor.ecn.purdue.edu | | Requests: suns-at-home-request > -- or -- | | Archives: suns-at-home-archives / ...rutgers!pur-ee!... | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 19:37:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew G Newcomb Subject: 3/60 ethernet error... To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu G'day, I have a 3/60 that has a really annoying problem. The machine boots fine, all the fuses are intact (I tested them with a meter), I configured the machine correctly for this network, BUUUUUTTTTTTTTT.... Say I ping an ip address 128.2.1.2 I can see the transmit led light, but no response is ever recorded. If I put a aui and 10base2 loopback on the ethernet ports and run the le diagnostic test I get this: Ethernet Chip Initialization Passed TX - TIMEOUT stat=1B3 rmd1=8008 tmd1=8308 tmd3=0 RX - TIMEOUT stat=1B3 rmd1=8008 tmd1=8308 tmd3=0 External Test failed during pass 294. Total errors = 291. Does anyone have a clue what is wrong? Matthew Newcomb ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1994 01:46:00 UTC From: nsayer@quack.kfu.com (Nick Sayer) Subject: cheap printers To: (null) Dwight McKay (The Moderator) writes: >I called SunExpress about this printer (it's color, BTW); it's still >available at this price, but the sales rep said the SCSI bus adapter on the >SS1 and SS1+ (and, I assume the SLC and ELC) will not support the CalComp >driver. Also, although I like NeWSPrint, I think it runs fairly slowly on >anything slower than a SS2/IPX. ghostscript has support for the sparcprinter. The sparc driver _may_ be coerced into talking to this printer. If not, then it's a good starting point. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 12:59:32 -0700 From: strick -- henry strickland Subject: ERROR: missing or invalid ID prom To: suns-at-home@ecn.purdue.edu Does anyone know what he should do? It's a sun 3/80. thanks, strick ------- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 12:20:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Cooper To: strick@nando.yak.net After leaving my Sun 3/80 of for a month maybe, I turned it back on and it seems to have forgotten who it is. When it boots up, it says: ERROR: missing or invalid ID prom Then it tries to boot itself up over the network, requesting an IP address for ethernet address 0:0:0:0:0:0, which is not a good sign at all. Tim (blast) says that the battery has probably died in the NVram. I know I can reenter all the critical stuff which is lost, but the problem is: I need to know what it is and how I can get it back! ....help ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 21:44:12 BST From: David Allan Finch - home Subject: free PPP with PSI's Interramp? To: suns-at-home@ecn.purdue.edu adstone@husc.harvard.edu asks: |> Does anyone have any experience using this service with freely available= |> software, and/or any insight into how difficult it would be to set thing= |> up without their support? I have used ppp-sunos4.1.pl6.tar.gz on my Sun3/50 (SunOS4.1.1 with 12Mb RAM=) for over 18 months with no problems. I was a p*g to install. You have to change a whole host of source and include files and then rebuild your kernal. If you gave access to a Sun4 use dp-2.3 it is marganly easy to install and has the added benifit of autodial. dp-2.3 & ppp-sunos4.1.pl6 can be got from PS - I found comp.protocol.ppp to be unhelpful and my Pop suplier are only geared up to help PC and Mac users :-( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 21:29:43 -0700 From: Nick Sayer Subject: Idiots who can't unsubscribe properly To: suns-at-home@ecn.purdue.edu art@midnight.com (Art Mellor) writes: >Given the large volume of unsubscribes lately, I was hoping the list >maintainer could post his/her email addresss so that future >unsubscribes could go there directly. Almost every mailing list in existence has an alias of [listname]-request@[site] that is for administrative requests. Almost every mailing list that doesn't use -request has an alias at the -request address or a program that sends out a help message in response to -request mail. Almost everyone who uses mailing lists knows this. Almost every mailing list sends out mail to new subscribers telling them this. There is almost no excuse for morons who send administrative requests to the submission address of a list. Folks that send their requests to the submission address of the list itself should be blacklisted from ever subscribing to a mailing list ever again, IMHO. [I'm not sure I'd go that far, but, PLEASE. Use suns-at-home-request. --ed] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 22:14:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David Di Gioia Subject: MorningStar PPP To: suns_at_home , adstone@husc.harvard.edu I got MorningStar PPP first as a 30 day eval. via ftp, then on floppy diskette when my company bought it for me; I didn't know they had it on CD, and indeed, it seems a bit small to put on CD. In my opinion, it is a bit expensive, but I have been pleased with it. I have heard there are good edu discounts, and even that you may get a good discount if you tell them it is your company's "first connection to the internet". The eval can be had from ftp.MorningStar.Com. Send email containing the output of "uname -a" to Support@MorningStar.Com, and they will send you a 30 day key. David Di Gioia wu2@cts.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 15:37:10 -0400 (EDT) From: brennan@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: New Sun User To: suns-at-home@ecn.purdue.edu I recently acquired a Sun 3/60. It's got 50-pin SCSI cabling but no terminator. It's not the centronix type. This thing has 50 little pins! I think from what I've seen those are called either SCSI-2 or DB50. Is this right? I tried to find a terminator around campus to borrow to see if the system even works but no luck. Before I buy one does anyone know where I can get one cheap? A catalog I have lists them as; passive/$60 or active/$100. And can anyone tell me what kind I need (passive/active)? I tried calling the Sun support number and the guy told me I could buy the answer at $150/hr. I gave him my best 4-letter word for free. Martin J Brennan NCSU Physics Dept. brennan@ncsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 18:33:32 EST From: craig@orb.apana.org.au (Craig Dewick) Subject: problem compiling ghostview 1.5 on 3/60 running 4.1.1u1 To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu I'm having difficulty getting ghostview 1.5 to compile on my 3/60. I'm running Sun/OS 4.1.1u1 with X11R6, and I'm using gcc 2.5.8 as the compiler. The problem manifests itself at the final linking stage, where the compiler fails after 'ld' gets a segmentation fault (which is reported through 'collect2' which itself is part of the gcc distribution). As 'ld' is a standard Sun utility, I suspect there may be some strange inconsistency between the Sun shared libraries in /usr/lib and the X11R6 libraries that are all used during the final link phase to create the executable for ghostview. I installed X11R6 from the gcc-compiled 3/60 binary distribution that resides on ftp.cad.gatech.edu. If (and when) I get a big enough hard drive with enough spare space to compile X11R6 from scratch on my system, would this solve the problem if it is some sort of library inconsistency? I'm at a loss as to what to do from here since I don't know what sort of interaction there is between 'ld', 'collect2' and other utilties that are used to create the executable file for ghostview. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance... Regards, Craig. PS. Having 'ld' fail with a segmentation exception is not a rare occurence. I've had it happen at other times, so perhaps it's actually a bug in the version of 'ld' that was shipped with the 4.1.1u1 distribution tapes? It's just an idea I have, so I don't know if this is anything to work on. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 09:41:08 -0400 From: Bob Sutterfield Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V7 #34 To: adstone@husc.harvard.edu (Abe Stone) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 15:29:08 -0400 From: adstone@husc.harvard.edu Subject: free PPP with PSI's Interramp? I tried posting this to comp.protocols.ppp, but apparently no one reads that. Your article hasn't propagated here yet, nor to any of our upstream newsfeeds. Are you sure it successfully left your system, bound for your news neighbors? I have a Sun 3/60 and I'm thinking of hooking up to PSI's new Interramp service. Unfortunately the only software they "certify" is Morning Star's package, which is (a) commercial (a bit irritating) They're selling a service, and they can only recommend software that they know works with their service. Others might work too, but they have no way of knowing for sure. and (b) sold only on CD (a real problem, since I have no CD drive). You can get the software and documentation via anonymous FTP from ftp.MorningStar.Com:pub/ppp/mst-sun3-ppp-1.4.1.3.tar.Z and user-guide-?up.ps.Z, or we can send it to you via e-mail. They offer no support for "uncertified" packages (nor do they guarantee that it will work at all). Since they can't guess what you might have done to it since you FTPd the sources from some server somewhere, they can't possibly answer your questions or help you troubleshoot your connection. Does anyone have any experience using this service with freely available software, and/or any insight into how difficult it would be to set things up without their support? The InterRamp POP will assign an IP address to your end of the link during the IPCP phase of connection-time negotiations. You need to use a PPP implementation that will allow itself to be assigned an address. If one of the freely-available PPPs can do that, you should expect no interoperability problems from that feature. You may still wish you had documentation, support, security... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 17:09:05 +1000 (EST) From: craig@orb.apana.org.au (Craig Dewick) Subject: X11R6 To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 10:35:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: Matthew G Newcomb > Subject: X11R6 > To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu > > G'day, > Anybody out there have X11R6 running on a sun3? I thought I might > as well as before I try to compile it and also to see if anyone has any > info that may help. Well, I've got a 3/60 with a cg6 card installed in it that runs X11R6 quite happily. I got it by ftping the X11R6 Sun 3/60 binary distribution from ftp.cad.gatech.edu and installing it on my machine. I've had to do a fair bit of customisation to some of the config files to make it how I want it, but since I don't have 100+ meg of free disk space to extract and compile the real source distribution, getting pre-compiled binaries is a good way to go. Regards, Craig. ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************