Date: Mon, 31 Jan 94 09:47:44 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V7 #5 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Mon, 31 Jan 94 Volume 7 : Issue 5 Today's Topics: <------------ Help with a Sun 4/260 -------------> HELP HELP on PPP is there a public domain rolodeck ? sun 2/120 memory boards... Sun 3/50 info request Suns-at-Home Digest V7 #4 +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home \ @harbor.ecn.purdue.edu | | Requests: suns-at-home-request > -- or -- | | Archives: suns-at-home-archives / ...rutgers!pur-ee!... | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Jan 94 17:37:45 PST From: rkou@hto.usc.edu (Roger H. Kou) Subject: <------------ Help with a Sun 4/260 -------------> To: suns-at-home@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Hi, I am sorry if you have already read this somewhere else, 'cause I am desperate. This is what I asked to people on sun-managers mailing list: ----- Hi, Just when I thought all the equipments have made it through the quake, this happens. Ack. Our Sun 4/260 server died. The server made it through the quake alright, but I had to shut it down after the quake on Tuesday the 18th because the A/C unit which normally cools the machine room was damage due to the quake. That server is really a heater. Anyhow, A/C was finally fixed and was back on duty on Friday the 21st. Same for the server. Few days later, this past Tuesday, it died. When I found it, there was nothing on the console. Only fuzzy lines on the console. Stop-A got me nowhere. Powercycled, Sun logo came up. Checking memory, suddenly, there was no activity on the cpu LED and the console turn into total fuzziness again(just like the way I found it) There was power when that happens, as the power switch on the cpu "vme-box" is still lighted. And various fans still going. (so power supply is not the problem) OK. Flip the switch from Norm to Diag. (Can't find a dumb terminal handy, at that point. ack) Powercycled. Console has lines appeared. (video memory check, I later learned). Activities on the cpu LED. Then all the sudden same thing happen. Read the Sun EEPROM manual, understand that I must have a dumb terminal hook up to serial port A or serial port B in order to make sense of the diag. Fine. Called it a night. Powered off the server. The next day. After everyone went home; I put up a PC with Procomm on the server's serial port A, set Procomm to 9600, N81, vt100 emulation, and open a log file to record the test message. Power on the server. Diag message appears: Boot PROM Selftest. EPROM Checksum Test. Context Register Test. UDVMA Enable Register Test. UDVMA Map Write-Write-Read Test. UDVMA Map Address Test. UDVMA Map 3-Pattern Test. Segment Map Write-Write-Read-Read Test. Segment Map Address Test. Segment Map 3-Pattern Test. Page Map Write-Write-Read-Read Test. Page Map RAM Address Test. Page Map 3-Pattern Test. Software Traps Test: levels 0x80 -> 0xff. Interrupt Register Test. Software Interrupts Test. TOD Interrupt Test. Video Memory Write-Write-Read-Read Test. 32-bit Video Memory Address Test. 32-bit Video Memory 3-Pattern Test. 32-bit Limited Memory Test: End of Megabyte 0x00000028. MMU Write Access/Modified Bits Test. MMU Write To Write-Protected Page Test. MMU Read From Write-Protected Invalid Page Test. MMU Read From Writable Invalid Page Test. MMU Write To Write-Protected Invalid Page Test. MMU Write To Writable Invalid Page Test. Main Memory Timeout Test. Control Space Timeout Test. Range Error Test. Size Error Test. ECC CE On Read Test. Board 00000000. ECC CE On Write Test. Board 00000000. ECC UE Test. Board 00000000. Cache Tag RAM Write-Write-Read-Read Test. Cache Tag RAM Address Test. Cache Tag RAM 3-Pattern Test. Cache Data RAM Write-Write-Read-Read Test. Cache Data RAM Address Test. Cache Data RAM 3-Pattern Test. Cache Write/Read Hit/Miss Verify Test. Cache Write/Read/Flush Verify Test. END OF SELFTEST # 0x00000001 (SELFTEST PASSED). #PASSED = 0x00000001, #FAILED = 0x00000000 Main Memory Test: Megabyte 0x00000001. Test: Megabyte 0x00000002. [various similar Main Memory test messages deleteted] Selftest Completed. Type a key within 10 seconds to enter Extended Test System (e for echo mode). Did that and went through the complete Extened Test. Found no problem. b xy(0,0,0) boot. Login in as root. Find no problem. (Hum, maybe the system was scared now that I got a terminal and is serious about trackig down the problem? Ack. No such luck.) Suddenly, console went into the same fuzziness. And no activity on the LED. It's dead. Since it's still in diag. mode, it re-started itself(I later learned) and diag. message appeared again on the dumb terminal, but this time it failed the main memory test: Main Memory Test: Megabyte 0x00000001. Write-Write-Read Test. [various test message delete, it failed at some point *] * - So I took out the memory board that I "think" it's bad. And run the diag again. OK, it booted. But failed after a few minutes. Again, ran the power up self-diag., some error showed up, took out another board, and was up for again a few mins before it died. Finally took out all the board that failed the test. And put back the first board in. It passed the diag.(again) and then crash after it has been up for a few mins. I am beginning to think it's not a memory problem, but some thing else. cpu board problem? Does anyone know? I am clue less. I don't think I can do anything more other than call in the pros(sun field tech or whoever) Replacing the memory board with a known-to-be-good board? replacing the cpu board with a know-to-be-good board? what? what should I do? Where to get those boards(if they're indeed the problems) Please help if you have been down this road. The server is a Sun 4/260 - * was a Sun 3/280S, manuf. date July 87 * upgraded to a 4/260, sparc cpu, ala cpu board upgarde * thus, it still uses sun3 kbd I was able to mail out the /var/adm/messages out before it crashed, and this message concerns me: Jan 24 20:16:02 hto-e vmunix: mem3: soft ecc addr 1af018 syn 2 65 U1665 (although I think it correctly correct itself, but I think what might have happened is that the memory finally just died completely. But all three memory boards! That's questionable I think.) Any help will be greatly appreciated!!! sincerely, Roger Kou PS: how do I subscribe to this list? I am currently not on the list. Please reply to me directly. I will try to summarize the response I received. [ send a subscription request to suns-at-home-request@ecn.purdue.edu. --ddm] --------------- One thing I have no explanation for it is that if I turn the main power switch off. And wait it for a few minutes. And turn the power on, the machine will boot, and I will get a login prompt. I was able to login and do a few things. Then all the sudden, boom, it went dead. As if power has been turn off. OK, do nothing and waited for a min or two, the machine will come back on line; ala reboot, but it never get pass the bootstrapping process, it always dies unless I turn the main power switch off and wait a few minuts before turn it on. why?? I've reseated the cpu and memory boards. and all the memory boards have failed the mem diag at various stage. I've sent a mail to sun-managers mailing list and no one has reply. Here is the message. If you know anyting about this please please let me know. sorry for the long message, -RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 21:21:06 MST From: pag@scg.boulder.co.us (Peter Gross) Subject: HELP HELP on PPP To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu PATTON_RONALD@tandem.com writes: > A little while ago I sent a message regarding the location of >PPP for the Sun 3/60 workstation. Thanks to all who responded. >I down loaded a copy of dialup PPP (dp-2.3). Everything compiled >OK. The modload appears to work fine and the dp deamon appears >to start fine but nothing works. I am clueless as to what I have >wrong in my configuration. Below is a diagram of the connection >I am attempting to set up. > |-------------------------- > | LAN 130.252.54.0 > ----|------- -------------- > |130.245.54.6| | 486 PC | > | | | DOS 6.0 | > | Sun |130.252.54.99 PPP 130.252.54.100 | FTP INC. | > | |---------------------------------------| | > | | (null modem) | | > ------------ -------------- Note with dp-2.3 (despite what the docs say) you do not need a separate IP address for each ppp connection. Thus you can use 130.245.54.6 for the Sun end of the dp link (no need to waste IP address 130.252.54.99). >The PC is running the FTP corp's implementation of PPP. I have a data >scope hooked up and can see the PC attempting to make a connection >with the Sun but the Sun does not respond. >Can someone give me an example of what the configuration files should >look like for this configuration. in "conf" file: [/usr/local/etc/dp/conf on my system] IF=dp0 SYS= MODEMS=zyxel PHONE= LOGIN_SCRIPT=ppp-login LOGIN_ARGS= LOGIN=P TRACE= ACCESS=shared MODEM=zyxel DEV=cua0 BAUD=38400 DIAL_SCRIPT=zyxel-dial DIAL_CHARMAP==W-, [replace <> stuff with appropriate items for your setup] in "dp-if" file: [/usr/local/etc/dp/dp-if on my system] this is the crucial one! # # This is an intermediate file, UNDOCUMENTED!! but REQUIRED! # first field is the dp interface # 2nd field: what I'm known as on the other machine # 3rd field: what it's known as here dp0 scg xtc dp1 scg swan dp2 scg annex dp3 scg cleo ====================== Any other files should be pretty much obvious (such as dialers etc). Make sure you install patch 100513-04 (tty jumbo patch), which fixes RTS/CTS hardware flow control. I have never connected to FTP's ppp, so you might have to add either PPP_ARGS=vjmode,draft to the conf file. I had to add PPP_ARGS=-all (which turns off all negotiation) to connect to SCO Unix PPP. good luck, --peter gross pag@scg.boulder.co.us ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 09:11:49 EST From: dmitry@codex.prds.cdx.mot.com (Dmitry Grenader) Subject: is there a public domain rolodeck ? To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu Hello, I have a Sparc-1 station and am looking for a public domain rolodeck program and probably other convinient routines (to dial a phone for example) that would run under OpenWindows. I used archie and saw many instances of rolodex program, but all of them (to be precise all I have checked) run under Motif which I do not have. Thank you in advance, -dmitry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 11:07:48 EST From: Alex Dumitru Subject: sun 2/120 memory boards... To: kdo@marie.mit.edu You write: >From: kdo@marie.mit.edu (Ken Olum) >Subject: Sun 2/120 memory board configuration >To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu >Can anyone tell me how to set the switches on memory boards for a Sun >2/120 to avoid address conflicts and to have as much memory as >possible. I have a supply of both 1MB and 4MB boards. Thanks. As far as I can tell the Sun 2/120 was limited to 7 Mb of memory. Therefore the best combination (maximum # of free slots & maximum memory) is one 4Mb board and three 1Mb boards. The dip switches determine which 1Mb boundary the cards starts on. If you look at them they have 7 (or 8 ?? - I can't really remember offhand) positions. I would set the 4Mb. board to all off, and boot the CPU making sure that it recongnizes 4Mb. Then add one 1Mb board at a time verifying that it is recognized. When you reach 7Mb that's it! The real max on those things is 8Mb, but you would then have to ditch your graphics card... Hope this helps, alex P.S if you really, really get stuck, give me a shout and I'll pop the boards out of mine and mail you the exact settings. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 23:46:33 -0600 (CST) From: "Paul Rak" Subject: Sun 3/50 info request To: Suns-at-Home@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Hi, I saw an old Sun 3/50 laying around at work, and since I was interested in playing around with one, inquired what they might want for it. The asking price is $250, and includes the system/cpu, 19" mono monitor, and a Sun shoebox with a 60MB tape and 141MB disk (Micropolis 1355). Also in the package price are 2 Wyse terminals, which I'll use on my 3B2. I did get the system booted and was able to log in as root; it appeared that the SunOS was version 4.0. My questions are: Reasonable price? It seems so, as what I've glanced at for comparable used 3/50's from dealers are several hundred to over a thousand bucks. Even if I just used the hard drive & terminals, I think I'd be ahead. Newer OS? Over a year ago, I had Sun admin training on 4.1.2. I'd like to run the latest (4.1.1 for Sun3?). Where to get (Cheaply!)? Same OS? Thus far, nobody's sure where our loading media for 4.0 are. If I can't (cheaply) get a newer OS, any ideas where I could get tapes for 4.0? Any sellers out there? Docs? In the newer SunExpress catalogs, all they're pushing is Sparc stuff (not suprisingly). Do they still sell the Sun3 stuff? Anybody looking to get rid of any? Almost all of my experience is with AT&T System V, so I'll need all the docs I can get! CD-ROM? Is it possible (and/or worthwhile) to use a CD-ROM on a Sun3? SCSI? The system is lacking a SCSI terminator on the Shoebox. I've not yet taken apart the shoebox to see if there's internal termination. Where can I get the terminators (with 3 rows of pins) (again, Cheap! :) Utility? Presuming I get it, what cool stuff is there to do with it? I'll load it up with a variety of GNU things, and elm, less, etc. (any gotchas?). My SO is already THRILLED (heavy sarcasm...) that I want yet another computer - anything I can wow her with, so she won't hurt me too bad? She was using CAD on a Sparc IPC for about 2 years. Any cool games? I hope to be putting the 3/50 on my 10BaseT net, along with a 3B2, Intel-based SVR4 machine, and DOS/OS/2 client. I suppose I could even use the Sun as a mega-terminal to connect to the others. I'm sure I'll dig up some other off-the-wall questions, but in the meantime, if you have any answers, advise, peeves, etc., please either email me (pjr@squid.chi.il.us for home, pjr@edge.com for work) or send a response to the list. Thanks much! pjr ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 09:19:15 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V7 #4 To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 12:42:51 -0500 > From: kdo@marie.mit.edu (Ken Olum) > Subject: Sun 2/120 memory board configuration > To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu > > Can anyone tell me how to set the switches on memory boards for a Sun > 2/120 to avoid address conflicts and to have as much memory as > possible. I have a supply of both 1MB and 4MB boards. Thanks. > > Ken >From the top of my head: on the 1Mb boards you find a dipswitch, only one of 'm should be on. The number of the dipsw is the # of the Mb you want to address, so the first Mb has sw 1 on etc. Never saw a 4Mb board so cannot help you there. Wilko ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************