Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 10:48:38 EST From: Dwight D. McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V6 #2 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Mon, 11 Jan 93 Volume 6 : Issue 2 Today's Topics: "sports" games for X-Windows rts/cts flow control on ttya on a slc (2 msgs) Suns-at-Home Digest V6 #1 (2 msgs) +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home \ @orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu | | Requests: suns-at-home-request > -- or -- | | Archives: suns-at-home-archives / ...rutgers!pur-ee!... | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 15:16:02 EST From: ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence) Subject: "sports" games for X-Windows To: Suns-at-Home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu I recently posted a query asking for recommendations of sports-oriented games for X-Windows to run on our small network of Sun-3/60s and 3/80s. One response was from Henry Melton, whose return address bounced. I'll post my reply here for general interest, and in the hope of reaching Mr. Melton. Henry Melton writes: I have a home 3/60 and have fewer games than you do. Please copy me on any intertesting results you get. And could you elaborate on that rotisssery thing? Alas, I've gotten _no_ recommendations of sports games for X-Windows. Too bad. The resolution of a workstation display and the facility for multi-user networked games might have produced some excellent baseball, football, basketball, hockey or soccer games. The rotisserie league (EFBL) is a play-by-email game in which players each become the manager of an imaginary American League baseball team. They draft and trade players according to an elaborate set of rules, and score themselves on the basis of a number of categories of individual and team statistics. My son Justin has been the owner/manager of EFBL a04 (`Maple Lawn Farmers') for three years. Other teams in the leagues seem to change ownership when seniors graduate from the colleges. You could write dpk@hover.att.com, also known as `Commish', for more information. Ronald Florence ron@mlfarm.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 13:20:19 -0500 From: Bob Sutterfield Subject: rts/cts flow control on ttya on a slc To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 13:48:08 PST From: asb@Telebit.COM (Andy Beals) Well it seems to work just fine at 19200 but when I turn the port speed up to 38400 I get overruns at the remote end. Yuck. Does anyone know of a drop-in zs driver that works or of some other solution to my problem? zs(4) notes that the native serial ports respect the modem's request to throttle outgoing data, but can't throttle the flow of data coming from the modem. I don't know of any driver that can change this on the native hardware. If you're running SLIP or PPP, this isn't much of a problem, since the upper layers (TCP, or the UDP application if you have UDP checksumming turned on) arrange for retransmission whenever a byte is dropped that damages a frame. UUCP, Kermit, [XYZ]modem, and all the rest all make similar provisions for lossy lines, because they can't tell either whether the error occurred between the modems or in the serial IO driver. You should only see any negative effect from overruns if you're using the naked port with tip or some other terminal emulator that's not guarded by a reliable stream protocol. But we run our Telebit V.32 and V.32bis modems at 38400 with RTS/CTS all the time to carry PPP links between our SPARCstations. BTW, don't run NFS over SLIP unless you have turned on UDP checksumming on both the NFS client and the NFS server. It's not safe, even over error-correcting modems, because of the frequency of serial overruns. I have personally had a file corrupted because of undetected errors creeping into the user-data portion of the UDP packet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:56:59 -0800 From: Nick Sayer Subject: rts/cts flow control on ttya on a slc To: asb@Telebit.COM In quack.suns-at-home you write: >Well it seems to work just fine at 19200 but when I turn >the port speed up to 38400 I get overruns at the remote >end. Yuck. To get cts/rts to be default for gettys, just add it in as an ms field in /etc/gettytab. I usually put ':ms=crtscts:p8:ap:' in my gettytab entries to make 8N1 the default as well as CTS/RTS. For dialout, the only way is to make the dialing program do the proper ioctl, or do a 'stty crtscts > /dev/cu___' after the program opens but before it does anything. In truth, however, it should be noted that all crtscts does on zs devices is force the sun to respect a drop of CTS. RTS still stays high constantly and if you push too much data through you may get an overrun. There's no cure (that I know of) for that, though I haven't had much problem with it as long as I'm running a window system. When running with the FORTH console the instance of overruns is much higher, but one shouldn't do that very much anyway. -- Nick Sayer | N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM | "These proceedings are closed." +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest' | PGP 2.1 public key on request | -- Gen. Douglass MacArthur ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:28:39 EST From: ups!kevin@fourx.Aus.Sun.COM (Kevin Sheehan {Consulting Poster Child}) Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V6 #1 To: fourx!ecn.purdue.edu!Suns-at-Home@fourx.Aus.Sun.COM > Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 13:56:56 EST > Subject: Hardware questions/recommendations > To: suns-at-home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu > > Hi! > > I have an IPX and want to get an external gigabyte disk and a 14.4/fax > modem. Fuji's are a bit noisy, but the Seagate drives have been both quick and quiet for me. Can't help you with the modem, we use Netcomm M7F (an Aussie brand) which work great for us. Make sure you investigate all the compression options carefully, and really understand the difference between V32, MNP 4/5, and V42bis. > > I was hoping to gather opinions and recommendations on both disks and > modems (and the possible use of gnufax with the modem). gnufax is working with our modems, and I've heard lots of sucess stories with it. Of course, I've heard of requests for a billion features too... > > Any insight or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Just about any disk will do these days, as they all have 5 year warranties. Pick your speed/price point and go shopping. l & h, kev Kevin Sheehan kevin%ups.uucp@fourx.Aus.Sun.COM | Uniq Professional Services Pty Ltd ACN 056 279 335 | Why Not? PO Box 70, Paddington, NSW 2021, (Sydney) Australia | Phone: +61-2-360-7434 Fax: +61-2-331-2572 | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 10:46:23 PST From: zurna!sinan@sunup.West.Sun.COM (Sinan Karasu) Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V6 #1 To: sunup!ecn.purdue.edu!Suns-at-Home@sunup.West.Sun.COM Modems: We have a ZyXEL 1496E modem. Works wonderful. CAVEAT: The old ROMs (5.02) had a bug that made them useless on SparcStations.However ROMs 5.04 fixed the problem. I can say they are probably one of the best modems out there. I would have recommended USR Sportster 14400 , however we tried 5 of them and they were sporadic in their answering habits. Sportster 9600 worked fine however. USR HST is too expensive (however it works great). Buy ZyXEL and forget about it. Disk Drives: We have 2 SparcStations at home and 2 external disk drives (both are from Andataco). 1 GB Maxtor (20 mos old) 2.1 GB Micropolis (1 mo old) Both are great. both are 5-1/4 drives. I understand Maxtor is concentrating on 3-1/2 drives , thus to get 2.1 GB drive Andataco switched to Micropolis. I think all the disk drives out there are about the same quality. I think low noise level and anything faster than 15 ms is an acceptable drive. Sinan ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************