Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 10:05:12 EST From: Dwight D. McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V5 #16 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Mon, 13 Apr 92 Volume 5 : Issue 16 Today's Topics: Disk problems on a Sun 3/50 For Sale: Memory for the Sun-3/60 need memory diagnostics for Sun 4/110 SUMMARY: Sun3 to Sun4 Upgrade Credits? Sun monitor comparison +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home \ @orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu | | Requests: suns-at-home-request > -- or -- | | Archives: suns-at-home-archives / ...rutgers!pur-ee!... | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:15:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Madsen Subject: Disk problems on a Sun 3/50 To: Suns-at-Home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu I have a sun 3/50 and I've been having odd problems with disks. I can boot off tape (scsi id 0) and run the installation through to the point where it asks if I want to reboot using the newly installed miniroot. When it reboots, or if I do a "b sd(0,#,1) -sw", it returns a "scsi: select failed, device not found" error. This doesn't make sense to me because it sees the disk and properly formats and loads the miniroot. This happens with a priam 638 and MD21 controller, a rodime 140mb scsi drive, and a wren 6. Has anyone seen a problem like this? One other odd thing I've noticed is that the installation reboot uses the wrong scsi unit number, adding 6 to it. i.e. using a disk with scsi id 4, the system tries to reboot with "b sd(0,10,1) -sw". Breaking out and rebooting with the proper number fails. The system is a Sun 3/50M, 4mb memory, SunOS 4.1.1, 1 disk and 1 cartridge tape drive. Mark Madsen mm79+@andrew.cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 13:32:26 CDT From: leonard@cosmos.phys.uwm.edu (LeonardParker) Subject: For Sale: Memory for the Sun-3/60 To: suns-at-home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu I recently upgraded from a Sun-3/60 and have 20 chips of 1 Meg each to sell. The chips are Sun part number 501-1239, which are the standard ones for the Sun-3/60. If possible, I would like to sell all 20 chips together at a price of $80 per chip, but other offers will be considered. Leonard Parker leonard@cosmos.phys.uwm.edu 414-229-6437 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 92 13:10:47 EDT From: mvc!biggers@duke.cs.duke.edu ( Mark R. Biggers ) Subject: need memory diagnostics for Sun 4/110 To: suns-at-home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu Hello all, My Sun 4/110 is exhibiting flaky memory behavior, with occasional crashes (mostly caused by "ez" startup) and other funky behavior (as can't handle optimized code from gcc 2.0). I've vaccuumed out the case, which wasn't too dirty anyway, and pushed down on the SIMMs, but to no avail. I know that Sun 3s had ROM memory diagnostics, and that general diagnostics could be booted back in the good ol days of Sun 3s/SunOS 3.5. Any suggestions as to how I can determine the flaky SIMM? thanks much, mark NOTE: the return address path may be incorrect! Use one of the addresses below. ============================================================= Model-View-Computing UNIX, C and X Window System software development and training Mark Biggers cs.duke.edu!wolves!mvc!biggers (or) biggers%mvc.uucp@cs.duke.edu 1-919-286-1441 ============================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 04:43:21 -0400 From: nulspace@cs.UMD.EDU (Michael Chang) Subject: SUMMARY: Sun3 to Sun4 Upgrade Credits? To: suns-at-home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu Sorry about being so late on getting in this summary together. I had a controller board to program, an abortion rights rally to attend, relatives to show around DC, rectifier & amplifier design problems up my BUTT and two exams in between me and this summary. (sigh, the troubles of a college student...) Quick Summary: You can get refurb Sparc I's from Sun. $5500 for a diskless color station. It's rumored that you can get bare IPC's from Sun for ~$2000. (the IPC is the machine that got replaced by the IPX) Regarding upgrades, one person said that they got $1500 trade-in for upgrading from a Sun 3/50 to a Sparc 2, and got to keep the monitor. I was told by a colleague on campus that Sun just plain didn't want to take their Sun 3's when they upgraded; they just wrote down the serial-numbers (so that you couldn't get credits for it twice, I assume) and left the hardware. This was sometime last year, however, so things might have changed. The prices below I think are pretty indicative of what one can get for educational discounts (as a student, not as a department with a P.O): note: this is from the Stanford Bookstore, and are for basic color systems. Mac Quadra700 6288,- 160MB 4MB 16"monitor 832x624 no MIPS given Sun IPC 5975,- 207MB 8MB 16"monitor 1152x900 17.4 MIPS Nextstation 5472,- 105MB 12MB 17"monitor 1120x832 15 MIPS (This is from a posting on Jan 30 of this year. The prices probably have gone down a little bit since then) I still won't buy nExt, though. The key seems to be to call for trade-ins/upgrade programs, which is something I intend to do, when this semester is finally over. Email me if you would like me to send you any info I get from Sun when I do get around to calling them. Realistically, however, I think I will look towards getting additional peripherals (and more disk space) rather than a CPU upgrade. Thanks to: cdr@kpc.com zurna!sinan@sunup.West.Sun.COM jdd@db.toronto.edu dgh@validgh.com wolfgang@netcom.com (from an old post to c.s.s.something, and thus has no idea that I am quoting him here) -- Michael Chang inet: nulspace@cs.umd.edu Department of Computer Science (EE Goofball) uucp: uunet!mimsy!nulspace University of Maryland, College Pk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 14:09:41 EST From: Michael R. Wayne Subject: Sun monitor comparison To: suns-at-home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu Could someone please describe the difference between a 3/50 monitor (540-1062-01) and a 540-1240-01? Both are ECL monitors but are not identical. /\/\ \/\/ wayne@teemc.tmc.mi.org (despite what it says above) ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************