Date: Tue, 27 Jul 99 15:15:56 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V12 #20 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Tue, 27 Jul 99 Volume 12 : Issue 20 Today's Topics: 3chip SIMMs in a 1+? 4/110 FPU shifting boot drive from on-board SCSI to SunSwift SCSI Sparc2 For Sale SS2 SCSI drives Suns-at-Home Digest V12 #19 (3 msgs) +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com | | Requests: suns-at-home-request@net-kitchen.com | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:31:16 -0400 From: Mauricio Tavares Subject: 3chip SIMMs in a 1+? To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Do those 3chip SIMMs (supposed to be true parity) work in a 1+? I have 4 4MB ones I could use in my little sparc but do not know if it will like it or not. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:14:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Francesco Messineo Subject: 4/110 FPU To: Dwight McKay Hello, I have an old 4/110 that i would like to revive. It lacks the fpu so i wonder if anyone wants to get rid of one 4/110 fpu :-) with regards. Franecsco Messineo - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:32:07 +1000 (EST) From: Craig Dewick Subject: shifting boot drive from on-board SCSI to SunSwift SCSI To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hi, I'm trying to work out how to shift a boot drive from the on-board SCSI port of a Sparc 10 to a SunSwift SCSI port. I'm having trouble setting up the device files correctly, and to date I can get the system to load the kernel from the disk when connected to the new SCSI interface, but it keeps complaining about not being able to mount the root partition after the kernel is loaded. Any ideas? The system is running SunOS 5.6 btw. Regards, Craig. -- Craig Dewick. Send email to "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au" Point a web browser at 'http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick/sun_shack.html' to access my archive of Sun information and links to other places. For info about Sun Ripened Kernels, go to "http://www.sunrk.com.au" - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Clayton A. Burnham" Subject: Sparc2 For Sale To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Sparc 2 w 64MB Ram, Sony4Sun 17" monitor, 2 GB Quantum (new) drive, 2 Keyboards, 2 optical mice, new video card. $450 OBO, will deliver in So. California area (Orange county, LA, Riverside, etc...) 909-316-2589 Day, 909-943-5166 Eve. Works GREAT, Up and running now... Needs NVRAM (but can be manualy programmed if turned off). - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:04:40 -0400 From: "Gregory F. March" Subject: SS2 SCSI drives To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I have an SS2 at home and one of the internal drives died. I'd like to replace it, but I'm not that scsi-proficient anymore and lack the understanding of the different types available. I assume that it is a SCSI-2 drive with nothing special, like no "fast", "wide", "ultra", "sca", "differential". But is it a "narrow"? Will a "fast narrow" work? Dirt cheap drives (www.dcdrives.com) sells some pretty cheap drives that may fit the bill, but I'm not sure. Also, does anyone know where to get external enclosures cheap for a scsi drive? Thanks! /greg -- Gregory F. March -=- http://www.gfm.net/~march -=- AIM:GfmNet - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:45:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Any Key Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V12 #19 To: Dwight McKay On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:26:15 -0400 Sheldon T. Hall wrote :Memory for the IPX has to be .... : : 72 pin : true parity (some PC "parity" memory fakes it) : 33 or 36 bits wide (Sun mem is 33, PC is 36) : Fast Page Mode (I don't think EDO will work) : 80 ns or better (most PC memory is 70 or 60, which is fine) : 4 megs or 16 megs per SIMM : :The IPX has only 4 SIMM slots, so, if you're buying, buy 16 meg SIMMs. Given :the price of memory these days, I can't see any reason to have less than 64 :megs in an IPX. : :-Shel EDO wont work because EDO is non-parity. Does the Sun just ignore the extra bits? I thought it was addressed differently? Rowan - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:24:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Curt Sampson Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V12 #19 To: Suns-at-Home-List@tigger.net-kitchen.com There's been some mention of the on-board SX framebuffer on SS20s here recently, and the fact that it's 24-bit. I wasn't aware of this. Other than the 24-bitness, Is this actually a significantly better frame buffer than a CG6? (Faster, for example?) If so, why do most of the SS20s I've seen use a CG6 instead of the on-board one? Are VSIMMs that much more expensive than a CG6? At this point I'm getting tempted to go out and buy a VSIMM for my SS20, and ditch the sbus frame buffer. cjs - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:18:48 +1000 (EST) From: Craig Dewick Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V12 #19 To: Curt Sampson Hi Curt, > There's been some mention of the on-board SX framebuffer on SS20s > here recently, and the fact that it's 24-bit. I wasn't aware of > this. Other than the 24-bitness, Is this actually a significantly > better frame buffer than a CG6? (Faster, for example?) If so, why > do most of the SS20s I've seen use a CG6 instead of the on-board > one? Are VSIMMs that much more expensive than a CG6? Sbus framebuffers are a lot cheaper than VSIMM's. I built my Sparc 20 in December last year from components imported direct from the US. The 8 meg VSIMM's at that stage were selling for just under US$400 each, and Sparc 20 bases on their own (with no VSIMM fitted) were selling for just under US$500 each. You need to remember that the VSIMM *is* the framebuffer (almost). And it contains 8 meg of VRAM, whereas even the TGX+ only has 4 meg. Considering that the SX can support up to 1280 x 1024 in 24-bit mode with an 8 meg VSIMM, you can see where the cost factor starts to come in. And as for speed, there is very little different between the SX and a TGX speed-wise. I'm extremely happy with the performance of the SX in 24-bit mode. > At this point I'm getting tempted to go out and buy a VSIMM for my > SS20, and ditch the sbus frame buffer. VSIMM's are getting cheaper. I've seen then for around US$300 recently, but they'll go lower in the coming months. Regards, Craig. -- Craig Dewick. Send email to "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au" Point a web browser at 'http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick/sun_shack.html' to access my archive of Sun information and links to other places. For info about Sun Ripened Kernels, go to "http://www.sunrk.com.au" - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************