Date: Sun, 29 Nov 98 22:10:23 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #33 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Sun, 29 Nov 98 Volume 11 : Issue 33 Today's Topics: Big Disks under SunOS 4.1.4 (2 msgs) Big Disks under SunOS 4.1.4 -- yup hard disk crash, Sparc 20, SCSI-2. Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #32 (4 msgs) Word 6 for a SparcClassic? +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com | | Requests: suns-at-home-request@net-kitchen.com | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Next digest will come out after the LISA '98 conference... --ddm | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:33:09 -0500 (EST) From: woods@most.weird.com (Greg A. Woods) Subject: Big Disks under SunOS 4.1.4 To: Jan Wolter > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:45:06 -0500 > From: Jan Wolter > Subject: Big Disks under SunOS 4.1.4 > To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com > > We've got an old Sun 4 that we run as a free shell / conferencing system > (grex.org if you'd like an account). We are scratching our heads over putting > more disk on it. Rumor says that you can't have partitions bigger than > 2Gig under SunOS 4.1.4, which seems sensible. But some of our gang aren't > convinced that you can put disks bigger than 2Gig on the thing, even if you > dice them up into 2Gig parititions. I don't want to use our hard-begged > money to buy any more 2 Gig disks if I can help it though. The things aren't > very cost effective and are getting hard to find. Can anyone reassure us > that bigger disks will work? Oh, they'll definitely work. I think I've seen 9GB disks on 4.1.4 machines, but I know for sure drives as big as 8.88GB definitely work (eg. a Micropolis 1991-27): 00:31 [163] $ uname -srm SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m 00:32 [164] $ /local/sbin/scsiinfo -f /dev/rsd5c Vendor: MICROP Model: 1991-27 1128RA Formatted Capacity: 17755792 sectors (8.88 GB) Sector size: 512 bytes Physical Cylinders: 4476 Heads: 27 Sectors per track (Avg.): 171 Tracks per zone: 27 Alternate Sectors per zone: 9 Alternate Tracks per volume: 81 Rotational speed: 5400 rpm However I'd highly recommend upgrading that machine to NetBSD anyway. Shell users should be much happier with a 4.4BSD environment than an aging SunOS-4 system, not to mention that any cracker worth their salt can go from a regular account to root access on 4.1.4 in no time flat. -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098 VE3TCP Planix, Inc. ; Secrets of the Weird - ------------------------------ Date: 18 Nov 1998 21:56:22 -0800 From: Frank McConnell Subject: Big Disks under SunOS 4.1.4 To: Jan Wolter Jan Wolter asks: [larger-than-2GB disks with SunOS 4.1.4?] I've done it, splitting a Sun 4GB SCSI disk drive into two equal-sized ~2GB partitions and it got past newfs-ing both partitions. Didn't beat on it hard thereafter though. Trying to newfs it as a single full-sized partition provided immediate negative feedback in the form of a less-than-obvious error message. -Frank McConnell - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 12:39:24 PST From: lakin@pgc.com (Fred Lakin) Subject: Big Disks under SunOS 4.1.4 -- yup To: janc@wwnet.net I can. Using SunOS 4.1.4 with a 9 gig disk, have four 1.8 gig partitions and one .8 gig, works fine: /dev/sd2e 1881462 31253 1662063 2% /usr3 /dev/sd2f 1881462 6094 1687222 0% /usr4 /dev/sd2g 1881462 9 1693307 0% /usr5 /dev/sd2h 1881462 9 1693307 0% /usr6 /dev/sd2d 822727 9 740446 0% /usr7 I guess the four could have bigger, but someone else formatted it and I said fine. -f - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:05:29 +0900 From: christoph.cantener@yale.edu Subject: hard disk crash, Sparc 20, SCSI-2. To: Suns-at-Home-Request@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hello, I am running a Sparc 20 with 2 hard discs SEAGATE ST31200W with SCSI-2 interface. One of them has just crashed. BTW both hard disks were aquired at the same time as the Sparc, 4 years ago. I am a bit surprised by its lifespan... This is the first time I am confronted with changing a SCSI disk. I looked at the FAQ for Sun Computer Administration (comp-sys-sun-faq) and Sun Hardware FAQ (ftp://ftp.ececs.uc.edu/pub/sun-faq/FAQs/Hardware/) but either no hint about what to consider or the information is outdated especially for the Sun Hardware FAQ. Given the fact that the SCSI technology has rapidly progressed during these for years (4 years ago 1 GB was still hot :) ) I don't know if my SCSI-2 interface can handle wide- or ultra-scsi hard disk and if there would be any problem with the enormous capacity of certain hard disks... Also it would be helpful to have some suggestion and particularly experience :) with different makers ( why should I buy a Seagate hard disk again ?). Many thanks in advance for taking time to consider my questions, Best Regards, Chris. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:43:18 -0500 From: George Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #32 To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com > We've got an old Sun 4 that we run as a free shell / conferencing system > (grex.org if you'd like an account). We are scratching our heads over putting > more disk on it. Rumor says that you can't have partitions bigger than > 2Gig under SunOS 4.1.4, which seems sensible. But some of our gang aren't > convinced that you can put disks bigger than 2Gig on the thing, even if you > dice them up into 2Gig parititions. I don't want to use our hard-begged > money to buy any more 2 Gig disks if I can help it though. The things aren't > very cost effective and are getting hard to find. Can anyone reassure us > that bigger disks will work? > > Thanks > Jan Wolter We used 4.2 gig disks on SS20's running SunOS 4.1.4. You just have to make sure that you split them into partitions of 2.1 gig or smaller. We have since upgraded to Solaris 2.5.1, which of course, has no such requirement :) ----------------------------- G. Kofoed, PO2 J2 Systems Support DND, Ottawa, Canada PO2.G.Kofoed@debbs.ndhq.dnd.ca - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:50:12 -0800 From: Vaughan Pratt Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #32 To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com From: Jan Wolter >Can anyone reassure us that bigger [than 2GB] disks will work? No problem, I used 4GB disks on my old Sparc 2 for years. It's since been retired to router duty, and is running into the following problem that someone may be able to help me with. (It's at the home end of a 56kb synchronous (ADN) SLIP line with a similarly configured machine at the work=internet end.) Running netscape on the machine itself is no problem, but running netscape on other machines at home that the Sun is routing to runs into the occasional web page that refuses to download. Is this a well-known bug in 4.1.4, and is there a patch for it? Vaughan Pratt - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:37:46 -0500 From: Howard Huntley Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #32 To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Is any one running Oracle on a Sparc system. I have a Sparc 20 at home that I want to run Oracle on. I don't know where to start. Can any one tell me where to start. - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:03:25 -0500 From: Howard Huntley Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #32 To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I am looking for a Fast Ethernet/SCSI SBus card that Compatable with Solaris v7. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:57:06 -0500 (EST) From: Joseph C Fineman Subject: Word 6 for a SparcClassic? To: Suns-at-Home I have been offered a job that would involve editing in Word 6, a word- processing program (I presume) about which I know nothing. Is it possible to run that under Solaris 2.3 on a SparcClassic, and if so, how great would be the trouble & expense? Thank you for your attention. --- Joe Fineman jcf@world.std.com ||: Love makes strange bedfellows. :|| - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************