Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 21:11:25 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #31 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Wed, 11 Nov 98 Volume 11 : Issue 31 Today's Topics: can someone provide specs of the 501-1931 SPC/S card please? CDROM drive for SPARC 2 ecc errors on mem0 hello everybody! Installing SunOS 4.1.1 on a diskless 3/80 Micropolis 1558 More on Axil upgrade problems No Subject Problems with Axil Sparc2 upgrade So where have we been? SUMMARY: IPX motherboard in IPC case SunOS 4.1.1U1 Upgrade Tape how? Support for RealTek 8029 PCI NE2000 in Solaris 2.6 Intel? Trouble booting a disk on 3/80 Various Comments on NetBSD on Suns +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com | | Requests: suns-at-home-request@net-kitchen.com | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:47:40 +1100 (EST) From: Craig Dewick Subject: can someone provide specs of the 501-1931 SPC/S card please? Hi, I'm trying to find out what the specifications for the 501-1931 SPC/S serial/parallel multiplexer boards are. The Field Engineer Handbook (mine is a late 1995 version) is extremely scant on specs, and searches of 'www.sun.com' and 'www.sun.com.au' turned up nothing that's useful. They are still supported in SunOS 5.6, so there has to be some specification data around somewhere. Specifically, I would like to find out things like the maximum serial port data rate, DMA capabilities, etc. Also if the maximum rate can be sustained on all 8 serial ports simultaneously, etc. If anyone can provide specs on the 501-1931 boards, I'd be very appreciative. Regards, Craig. -- Craig Dewick. Send email to 'cdewick@lios.apana.org.au' Point a web browser at 'http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick/sun_shack.html' to access my archive of Sun information and links to other places. For info about Sun Ripened Kernels, go to 'http://www.zeta.org.au/~craig/srk' - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 02:07:41 -0500 (EST) From: "David L. Elliott" Subject: CDROM drive for SPARC 2 To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com The original Toshiba CDROM drive on my SPARC 2 is giving out; I've lost my info on how to fix the jumpers (pads?) in a standard Toshiba drive so that it will provide the correct block length for a SPARC. Does anyone have the directions? David Elliott (please e-mail delliott@isr.umd.edu) - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 14:43:31 -0500 From: Blake Sobiloff Subject: ecc errors on mem0 To: Suns-at-Home-List I have a 4/260 with 32 MB of RAM running Solaris 2.4 (patched to 101945-59). I can let it sit and not do much and it seems happy doing that (144 days of uptime). However, if I actually try and use it much (compiling perl5, for example) it'll eventually generate a soft ecc error on mem0. This leads to a BAD TRAP warning, a data fault from sched, a kernel write fault, a bus error, a panic, a file system sync (which usually fails), and then a reboot. The reboot usually fails, too, with a bus error, forcing me to power cycle to successfully reboot. I assume that I've got some flakey memory on the mainboard (right?). I need to get CVS and apache up and running reliably, so I'm trying to figure out what my options are. I don't want to spend too much money on this system. Is there someone who will test the mainboard and replace the faulty RAM for cheap? Would it be cheaper to just buy another mainboard, maybe even upgrading to a better version (360 or 460)? I like Solaris and want to keep a (running) Solaris box around the house, so I'm not interested in replacing my 4/260 with a Linux or *BSD box (I already have one of those at home, too :-). If I can't resurrect the 4/260, I'll probably try to scrape up the money for an Ultra 5, but I really don't want to spend that kind of money right now. TIA for any words of wisdom! -- Blake Sobiloff Higher Education Consulting KPMG -- "It's time for clarity" Washington, DC - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:27:37 +0300 From: "Dimitris S. Tsifakis" Subject: hello everybody! To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Hello! Greetings from Greece! I receive the list for a couple of months or so and I must say it is very interesting and full of hard to find information. I am a Geology student and I a Sun (mostly old sun) computer fan. I already have at home a 3/60, a SPARCstation 1 w/o framebuffer and a SPARCstation 20 model 502 that I use as my personal computer. The SS20 works as my internet gate with my USR Courier and SOCKS5. The monitor I use with the SS20 is a Sony 15SX with a 13w3 to vga adaptor, at 1152x900x66... So, here is my question for today: I just tried my Integrix TGX with my SS1 and it didn't work. It works just fine with my SS20. Is this a problem with my SS1 or it is a compatibility issue? Please note that I tried all 3 sbus slots of the SS1, but nothing... Dimitris -- .-. .-. / \ .-. .-. / \ / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / \ /-Dimitris Tsifakis---------/---\---/-\---/---\-----/-----\-------/-sv1det\ \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / `-' `-' - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:16:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Yong S. Yi" Subject: Installing SunOS 4.1.1 on a diskless 3/80 To: Sun-at-Home Hello, I obtained a copy of SunOS 4.1.1 files (sun3arc.krupp.net), and wish to install it on a diskless 3/80. I tried netbooting the 'tpboot.sun3x' file, but it failed saying that 'le' was not a supported device, and listed the recognized devices (sd, st, etc). At that point, I assumed that the tpboot.sun3x was not made for netbooting.. Is there *any* way to install SunOS 4.1.1 on a diskless 3/80 over the network? Thanks in advance. -- Yong S. Yi Email: ysyi@async.org Phone: 1.256.881.8821 - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 98 15:05:16 CDT From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Micropolis 1558 To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Do you still need a Micropolis 1558? I saw your post from may, and just got the drive today. Please reply. - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 20:15:51 -0500 From: Brian Neal Subject: More on Axil upgrade problems To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com I just tried running Rehat 5.1 and it works. Maybe this is a problem with my copy of Solaris 2.6? I've got the "Solaris 2.6 Hardware: 3/98, SPARC Platform Edition" package. -Brian Neal ================================================================== Brian Neal Naeser's Law: You can make it foolproof, but you can't make it damnfoolproof. ================================================================== - ------------------------------ Date: 19 Oct 98 06:41:57 EDT From: Lord Bready Subject: No Subject To: "Suns at home" I have a SPARCstation IPC. It has an OS, but isn't much use, because I don't have the root password for it. If there is anyone reading the list who lives in the UK and has a CD-ROM that the machine would boot from so as to install Solaris 2.5 and is willing to sell it, please let me know. If a copy of Solaris 2.3 or 2.4 would help, let me know. I also have about three years worth of Sunsolve CDs. Also, I have just got a NeXTstation Color Turbo (way cool. Looks good enough to sit on desk next to SPARC) as an Office work system. It has built in ethernet, much the same as the IPC. It runs a BSD 4.3 compatible Unix. Presumably, it's quite simple to network the two? Has anyone else done this and come acros any real problems. I remember reading that Sun Micrososytems machines had some problems when it came to networking them with SGIs. Nothing similar with this I hope? Anyway, thanks in advance for your time and Sorry for posting a 'marketplace' type message to the list. Owen John Hughes hughesOH@hughesm.force9.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 20:10:45 -0500 From: Brian Neal Subject: Problems with Axil Sparc2 upgrade To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Hello everyone, I bought the 110 MHz Axil SS5 upgrade motherboard (fits in SS2) and I'm having some problems with it. I am trying to reinstall Solaris 2.6 on the machine: ok boot cdrom panic: Parity error in kernel space: ctx=0, va=f00755c4 pa=3f755c4 At this point it reboots. I have a filesystem on a hard disk, so I try: ok boot /iommu/sbus/espdma#4,8400000/esp@4,8800000/sd@1,0 panic - boot: nointerrupt-enable node? Program Terminated Does anyone have experience with these boards (this is the Axil-255)? Thanks in advance, Brian Neal ================================================================== Brian Neal Naeser's Law: You can make it foolproof, but you can't make it damnfoolproof. ================================================================== - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:54:20 -0500 From: "Dwight D. McKay" Subject: So where have we been? To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Greetings! Suns-at-home is back and will hopefully be on a more regular schedule starting with this issue. As of right now, our DNS records have finally been moved to our new ISP (wintek.com) and we are up and running on a nice new ADSL link. It's provided by GTE and is rated at 384kps in both directions. That should help with access to our web site. Sorry for the delay in getting this issue out to you all! -- Dwight D. McKay, Senior Technical Consultant Network Kitchen Consulting dwight@net-kitchen.com - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:29:07 +1000 (EST) From: Craig Dewick Subject: SUMMARY: IPX motherboard in IPC case To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 22:53:04 -0700 (PDT) > From: Donald Burr > Subject: SUMMARY: IPX motherboard in IPC case > To: Sun Managers list , > > A couple of weeks ago, I posted to sun-managers and Suns-AT-Home with a > rather unusual question: > > Can a Sun *IPX* motherboard fit into a Sun *IPC* case? [ lots deleted ] > 13. Turn the machine on, set the EEPROM values to what they're supposed > to be, and boot 'er up. You're all done! Not quite. Because the IPX and the IPC have different devices on the CPU board, if you are running SunOS 5.x (aka Solaris 2.x) you'll need to reboot the machine with the '-r' option once the IPX board has been installed (unless Solaris is smart enough to do it by itself when your disk boots on the IPX board for the first time), otherwise you won't get any device links created for the cg6 framebuffer. >From the 'ok' monitor prompt, just type 'boot -rv' to watch the action. Note that this will not work with some types of CPU board upgrade, such as if you put a Cycle SS5 clone board into your IPC/IPX case, because the CPU architecture is different (sun-4m for the SS5 as opposed to sun-4c for the IPC/IPX), as well as the device trees and physical device addresses being totally different. It also doesn't work if you upgrade a Sparc Classic (aka LC) or an LX to something else. Going from a Classic to an LX does work though because they are basically the same with different framebuffers and audio hardware (so a 'boot -r' is all that's needed just like the IPC to IPX upgrade), but upgrading to any other sun-4m machine type won't work. I've got email from several Sun engineering people who are *very* annoyed that the head software engineering people will not make cross-architecture SunOS installing a high priority. This would make machine upgrading sooooo much easier if it could be done. sigh I have an LX here which will soon be replaced with an SS-20. I can either completely re-install Solaris (which I can't do for obvious reasons), or get fiddly with device trees. There is a way to get around the problems of swapping a disk from one incompatible machine to another within the same CPU architecture, but it's tedious and needs *lot* of caffeine before attempting it! 8-) Regards, Craig. -- Craig Dewick. Send email to 'cdewick@lios.apana.org.au' Point a web browser at 'http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick/sun_shack.html' to access my archive of Sun information and links to other places. For info about Sun Ripened Kernels, go to 'http://www.zeta.org.au/~craig/srk' - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:06:55 From: Ryan Stapleton Subject: SunOS 4.1.1U1 Upgrade Tape how? To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com Hello, I have a Sun 3/80 and Sun 3/470 I have installed SunOS 4.1.1 on my 3/80 I have ftped the 4.1.1U1 update tar and have untared it. What do I do with it now? How do I install it? I figure it would be good to upgrade to 4.1.1U1 Thanks -Ryan --------------------------------------------------------------- - Ryan Stapleton | raal@penn.com - - 225 West Main Street | ryans@cis.clarion.edu - - Reynoldsville, Pa | ryan@flower.aud.temple.edu - - 15851 | - - Amateur Radio Call: KA3WUT | http://users.penn.com/~raal - --------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:38:58 +0900 From: Toshio_Kumagai@Kumasan.ORG (Toshio Kumagai) Subject: Support for RealTek 8029 PCI NE2000 in Solaris 2.6 Intel? To: Donald Burr , Hi Donald, It may be what you want (from news group) :-) RTL8029 in my system is working well. There's a ML for solaris-for-x86 on eGroups.com. Please refer to: http://www.eGroups.com/list/solarisonintel Good luck and hope not too late. Cheers Toshio Kumagai (Toshio_Kumagai@Kumasan.ORG), Japan - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:22:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Yong S. Yi" Subject: Trouble booting a disk on 3/80 To: Sun-at-Home Hello (again), I have a Sun 3/80 here, with a 424MB Seagate/Sun SCSI hard disk. It is currently netbooting NetBSD/sun3x 1.3.2. I am having a bit of trouble booting it. I've tried: >b sd() Boot: sd(0,0,0) Device not found (I tried other combinations, too.) Then I read the NetBSD 'INSTALL' file with tips on installing NetBSD... >b sd(0,18,0) [at this point, the hard disk spins up!] Boot: sd(0,18,0) Illegal Instruction = 0xDFFFF97C at 0x00004010. Here's what NetBSD/sun3x 1.3.2 reports (this is where I got the '18' from (after reading INSTALL file, of course)): sd0 at scsibus0 targ 3 lun 0: SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd0: 411MB, 1476 cyl, 9 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 843284 sectors I am lost as to what is causing the 'Illegal Instruction ...' error, since I am new to Sun hardware. Thanks in advance for any help. Thanks. -- Yong S. Yi Email: ysyi@async.org Phone: 1.256.881.8821 - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:17:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Sampson Subject: Various Comments on NetBSD on Suns To: Suns at Home > From: John Ruschmeyer > Subject: Operating systems for a sun 3/80 > > > From: Thorne Lawler > > > > - PPP over a 33.6K modem (Can the serial ports on a 3/80 *do* > > 56K?) > > I suspect not. A Sparc 2 really tops out at 38.4, so I would doubt that > a Sun3/80 could do better. I ran a Sun 3/60 as a home router at 38.4 Kbps on a 28.8 modem, and had reasonably good results. Of course, my X session tended to slow down a lot when another user on another machine started downloading large web pages. :-) If you're not running X on the 3/80, it should be fine so long as it has enough memory (16 MB or more). However, the serial port won't go past 38.4 kbps; or rather, it doesn't have any standard speeds beyond that. > > - SAMBA for a print and file server. Yup, I was doing this on my 3/60, too. > > - NetBSD isn't terribly ...um... finished. I could *probably* get > > Gated or Routed running under it, and possibly even > > Samba, but I'd almost certainly have to re-write some > > things to make it all go, and stability would still > > probably be an issue. I'm not sure how you come to this conclusion. As I said, I ran all this stuff on a 3/60 years ago under NetBSD 1.1, and it was rock solid. > From: John Ruschmeyer > > As for "maturity", I certainly have no problems with NetBSD on a Sparc 2. Indeed, I'd run NetBSD over any other OS on low-end Sparc systems. (In fact, I do: I have two NetBSD systems, an IPX and a Classic, in production at ISPs right now. I wouldn't dare run SunOS in an ISP environment, for the obvious security reasons.) cjs -- Curt Sampson 604-257-9400 De gustibus, aut bene aut nihil. Any opinions expressed are mine and mine alone. The most widely ported operating system in the world: http://www.netbsd.org - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************