Date: Thu, 21 May 98 23:04:21 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #17 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Thu, 21 May 98 Volume 11 : Issue 17 Today's Topics: Connecting a 3/60 to a Win95 PC. FYI: Two desktops/displays on a sun IPX Keyboard Cable MCP software Need Micropolis 1558 or equiv... none Parts for a 3/80 PPP/SLIP-connection for SunOS 4.1.3 problem with Sun 3/60 and 19" mono monitor Routing / DNS Sendmail config problem Solaris 2.5.1 dump msg Solaris and inexpensive color printers Sun 3/260HM -8 Sun 3/75 (3 msgs) Sun IPC for sale Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #16 Uninterruptible Power Supply for Sparc WTT:Solaris for Intel +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com | | Requests: suns-at-home-request@net-kitchen.com | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 23:56:48 +0100 From: Richard M Davis Subject: Connecting a 3/60 to a Win95 PC. To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com Hi All,I'm a bit of newbee to Networking and having just got my hands on a Ethernet card + Cables for the PC I was wondering what I would need to use Windows 95 in conjunction with the Sun 3/60 over Ethernet. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Richard Richard M Davis | A1200 68040 | Sun 3/60 Work Station http://www.rmdavis.demon.co.uk | IRC rickymd - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 21:27:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Toerless Eckert Subject: FYI: Two desktops/displays on a sun To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com Hi In case you havn't seen my message on usenet. I finally managed to document our setup on how to get a second pair of framebuffer/keyboard/mouse running under solaris, so if you've got a fast sun workstation (something like ss10 or faster) and a spare set of (keyboard,mouse, frame buffer, user), you might want to take a look at that solution. From our experience it's definitely better than an X-terminal for the second user and unless you're really exploiting the machine, there's no difference in using a sun with two local users over using it with just one.. See ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/local/inf4/eckert/doubleX/doubleX-0.9.tar.gz best regards Toerless - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 10:04:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Toerless Eckert Subject: IPX To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com > First I noticed my IPX was produced in the UK, was or is this normal for > this class of machine. It certainly travelled a distance in its time > having gone to the US and then back to the UK. As a side note do Sun use > Air or Sea to transport these beasties? > > Secondly it has got the BABT approval (UK Telephone approval) symbol > printed on the Motherboard, however no-one seems to know why. Anyone got > any ideas? Is this something do with its UK origin. My 2c guesses: 1. I don't remember the actual place of manufacturing of Sun systems. I was under the impression that they were all manufactured in the US. Thus i think that you may only look a a "refurnishing" label, telling where the box was refurnished - ? I know a couple of manufacturerer (e.g.: like Apple) do produce in Ireland for the european market. May Sun too. England ? i'd rather think not. 2. The telekom signs of approvals were delivered with the shipment of software like sunlink ISDN or SunLink X.25, i.e.: software to connect a machine to public phone or data networks. If you had a telecom tecnician checkng your connection he might want to see this to know that approved software/hardware was being used. Even with liberated telecom markets there still is the need for approval in europe on hardware/software in some areas. Toerless - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 14:57:28 -0700 From: Dean Moore Subject: Keyboard Cable To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Hi , I'm presently in need of some cables for an IPC , specifficaly a 25 pin serial (modem) and a type 4 keyboard to cpu cable , i have presently an 8 pin DIN to 8 pin DIN cable from a mac printer setup , and a mac 8 pin DIN to 25 pin serial cable,these 2 units have the correct ends but i cant seem to locate any pin-outs for either cable ? in the keyboard FAQ there is one end shown but it doesnt state whether its a straight through cable or not , could anybody point me towards the location of any pinout diagrams ? i suspect there might be some in online system docs but as i'm not running yet i can't check that out . Thanks for your time , Dean. - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 16:56:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Toerless Eckert Subject: MCP software To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Hi 7 years ago i used the Sun MCP board to run X.25 via it, but that was on SunOS-4.1.x. I was now trying to revive a Sun-4/6x0 system with an MCP board and hat to notice 2 problems: 1. I cannot find the original SunLink MCP media that contains the necessary Software for SunOS-4.1.x. 2. I have to notice that we never tried using the SunLink MCP board with Solaris-2.x and X.25. I thus don't even know if there is software to support synchronuous mode on Solaris-2.x with the SunLink MCP board. I think there should be because at the time when Solaris-2.x or 2.2 were current, the SunLink MCP board was by itself still alive. nevertheless, Solaris-2.5.x does not contain synchronuous support for the MCP board, only asynchronuous support (i.e.: mcpzsa drivers). Does someone know if Sun ever support synchronous mode on the MCP with Solaris-2.x ? If yes: what's the name of the software and a source for it ;-) Thanks Toerless - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 19:55:35 EDT From: Bob Smith Subject: Need Micropolis 1558 or equiv... To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Hello All, I know what I'm asking for will cause some people to lay on the floor convulsing in laughter... but I'm in need of a Micropolis 1558 or equivalent for my old Sun 3/60... the current drive is starting to do bad things... so if anyone has one laying around with some miles left on it - or knows where I can find such a beasty, I'd greating appreciate it! Thanks, and have a good day! Bob Smith - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 May 98 23:48:59 -0800 From: "Paul Khoury" Subject: none To: "Suns-at-Home-List@net-kitchen.com" , Okay, I finally have a fresh install of Solaris 2.4 on my SPARCbook, but I still get a kernal panic when I try to run 'openwin'. Could this be a hardware problem? Everything else seems to be okay. If it helps, the install was done on a SPARCbook3, and my machine is a 3GX. Do these machines have different framebuffers? Also, I can send anyone who would like the log I copied on my ThinkPad of how it crashed. Now, I can't even start it up; it seems to have forgot my root and demo passwords. :( -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my P75 Server Proudly running OS/2 2.1, OS/2 Warp 3/4/Server 4.0, and Sun Solaris 2.4 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 06:37:58 -0400 From: "Harry J. Regan" Subject: Parts for a 3/80 To: I just picked up an old 3/80. The case is missing one of its front feet (you know, the square blue/purple pad thingies-- I know all the technical terms). Has anyone out there got a foot/pad they'd be willing to part with? Was Solaris 4.1.1 the the Sun 3 ever offered on a CD? Does anyone have one they'd want to sell/trade? Harry J. Regan -o- Phone/FAX: 301.871.4911 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:55:29 +0200 From: Raymond Nooren Subject: PPP/SLIP-connection for SunOS 4.1.3 To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com I would like to install a SunOS machine at home to be able to work there using a CAD/CAM system; however a (dial-up) network-connection is needed to get a license for the CAD/CAM-application and to transfer files. For the license we need a TCP/IP connection, like PPP or SLIP. The license mechanism of the CAD/CAM application doesn't support DHCP. Can someone give me (or point me to) information about how to get such a connection running ? Both the client (home) and the server (office) need to be configured. The machines are: SPARC classic and SPARC 4. OS: SunOS 4.1.3U1 Modem: US Robotics Sportster external Office machines have a standard network running (not using NIS). Best regards, Raymond Nooren E-mail: dtm@somatech.nl (Raymond Nooren) - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:11:28 -0500 From: Jim Lubbe Subject: problem with Sun 3/60 and 19" mono monitor To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com I have a Sun 3/60 with an on-board mono framebuffer. I want to use a 19" monochrome monitor (365-1016-01, 1152X900 res) with it. After I power-on the 3/60 and the monitor, the monitor displays power-on test results faintly in several overlapping windows on the screen. I can barely make out the letters in each window. The high-resolution jumper is not installed on the 3/60. I am using the cable that came with the monitor to connect it to the 3/60. Is it possible that I am using the wrong cable? I would like to eliminate some of the simpler possibilities before I cart the monitor off to the fix-it shop. Any ideas? Thanks, Jim - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 04:28:39 -0400 From: Tyrone Wyatt Subject: Routing / DNS To: "'SAH'" Hi, I have a multi-homed Linux box (2.1.27) routing between Sun3/60's(4.1.1), Sun 4/280's(4.1.2) and Sparc IPC's and 5's (Solaris 2.4 and 2.5.1 respective), NT, and 95 machines. When attempting to route to a Cisco 722, all route properly except the Sparc's. They will communicate with all devices except the router. The routing tables appear to be the same. Any suggestions? Also, is there a way to get SunOS/Solaris to accept output from an NT DNS server. Errors are " Improperly formatted response, cannot find server at IP address x.x.x.x " from SunOS, and no response at all from Solaris. Thanks in advance. Ty - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 17:40:15 -0500 From: The Big CaT Subject: Sendmail config problem To: Suns-at-Home-List@net-kitchen.com Hey All, I've got a problem that has me scratching my head. I'm trying to get sendmail v8.6 to work in a non NIS environment (only have one UNIX box) and I get this error message when I run it: May 4 08:40:59 corbu.kobeco.com sendmail[758]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): NIS map passwd.byname specified, but NIS not running May 4 08:40:59 corbu.kobeco.com : Not enough space I can't finid out where this is being specified so I can turn it off!!! I can mail out to other sites but this error keeps return mail from coming in. Any insight will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Kobe - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 15:55:56 -0400 From: Toby Creek Subject: Solaris 2.5.1 dump msg To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com You don't have to clean the swap partition on the machine. As it swaps, it will simply overwrite whatever is there. If you are interested in figuring out what happened, I can recommend Panic!: UNIX System Crash Dump Analysis by Drake and Brown as an excellent start. I read this book, and now have a much better understanding of what a dump can tell you. There is tons of information in a dump that will lead you to the source of the problem. In addition to dump analysis techniques, the authors cover SPARC assembly concepts and all sorts of other low-level things. I bought mine from Amazon.com, and have already used it to track a bug in 2.5.1 that causes panic during jumpstart server setup. The patch was available via Sunsolve. >From a quick glance at the panic message, what you had was a filesystem inconsistency in / or a bug in the fs code. Without the dump, you can't determine what process caused it, or any more about it. Toby - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 06:50:55 -0700 (PDT) From: System Administrator Subject: Solaris and inexpensive color printers To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com There are lots of expensive networked color laser postscript printers that probably work great with SPARCstations running Solaris, but is there any way of getting a cheap HP Deskjet color printer to work that only costs a tenth as much? Mine, for instance, an 870CSE, understands ASCII and PCL 3, but I can't get it to work usefully connected to the /dev/ecpp0 port on an Ultra-30 running Solaris 2.6. I can get it to print out the Postscript source of documents in black, but that's not really what I bought it for. An HP Jet Direct network box, which costs as much as the printer, allows it to work from Windows NT or MacOS as a color graphics printer, and allows it to print text files correctly in black from the Solaris system, but I still can't get color graphics, e.g. printing out a web page, unless I first convert them to PCL. I can do that by printing to a file on the NT system, but I might as well print from that system. So has anybody solved a problem like this? It appears that if there were a way to convert a Postscript file to PCL format, that would work, but I haven't found any such. The Solaris 2.6 printed system administration cover printing in about 200 pages, none of which really seems to address the issues I'm interested in. - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 16:32:36 -0400 From: Tyrone Wyatt Subject: Sun 3/260HM -8 To: "'SAH'" Hi everyone, I have a 3/260HM -8, 12 Slot Deskside - Backplane# 501-1092 12422. Installed slots: Slot-1 501-1274 07368 - (4/2xx CPU w FPC-6/4) - Type 4 Keyboard and mouse, SunOS 4.1.2 Slot-2 501-1203 05412 - (ALM-2 VME) Slot-3 501-1102 11648 - (8M Memory board) Slot-4 501-1102 14327 - (8M Memory board) Slot-5 (empty) Slot-6 501-1254 05065 - (32M Memory board) Slot-7 (empty) Slot-8 (empty) Slot-9 (empty) Slot-10 501-1166 23935 - (XYLogics 451 SMD Controller) Slot-11 (empty) Slot-12 501-1217 03872 (combo: 501-1236 "Sun-3 SCSI Controller) ( All part number information courtesy of James W. Birdsall's Sun Hardware Reference Part 3 & 7) at http://sun-www.picarefy.com I get a "bus error" whenever I connect the cd-rom and attempt to mount it, but not the Hard Drive or when accessing the tape drive.??? I realize according to Mr. Birdsall, - (Ref: SHR Part-3 pg. 31 P-2) " The 501-1274 boards must be 501-1274-12 or later to use a type 4 keyboard") and (Ref: SHR Part-4 pg. 4 Sect. Label 501-11254) " Similar to 501-1102 but not compatible with 3/2xx (or 3/4xx?)", this hybrid probably shouldn't work at all. But, it counts 48M of memory goes through the load, ( with somes errors about not being able to find the Oracle database I erased, I'll fix it one day :) ), and gives me a login prompt. The error occurs when a mount attempt of the cd-rom is made? The same board is in my 4/280 with a similar configuration and works fine? Yes, I swapped them - same error. 1) I did check a reliable source ( Sun Hardware Reference ) 2) I think I know what I am doing .....Hmmmmm 3) Help ! Thanks, Ty (I wanna be a Unix Admin when I grow up) Wyatt P.S. Does anyone know where I can get a hi-res monitor for this thing. This little orange and black terminal is pulling my eyes closer together. ( May be part # 365-1005 / 1047 / 1128 / 1130 / 1140 ??) - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 98 18:21:04 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Subject: Sun 3/75 To: pkhoury@loop.com > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 98 07:48:08 > Subject: Sun 3/75 > > Does anyone know anything about this workstation? All I know is > that I can get one with a 19" mono CRT for about $50. Can I load Linux > 68K on it? Would it support my Quantum LPS270S HD? It's the same CPU as a 3/160 but in a desktop case (similar to a 3/60 or 3/50) rather than a pedestal. SunOS 3.5 or 4.x, or NetBSD-sun3, should run on it. I don't know about Linux. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 98 21:43:22 PDT From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) Subject: Sun 3/75 To: pkhoury@loop.com > Date: Tue, 05 May 98 19:20:28 > Subject: Sun 3/75 > > What CPU is in it specifically? Would it support my SCSI-2 HD? > Anyways, is it worth getting? The processor chip is the same 68020 as in all sun3's (except the 3/80 and 3/480, which use a 68030). The processor board is the same as in the 3/160. I don't know if that processor board has an on-board SCSI controller; if it does, it should work with your Quantum drive. A 3/160 would typically have SMD disks and a VME bus disk controller (xy0), but the 3/75 may usually have been set up differently. If it's working, the CRT alone is worth the $50. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 98 19:20:28 From: "Paul Khoury" Subject: Sun 3/75 To: "Perry Hutchison" On Tue, 5 May 98 18:21:04 PDT, Perry Hutchison wrote: >> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 98 07:48:08 >> Subject: Sun 3/75 >> >> Does anyone know anything about this workstation? All I know is >> that I can get one with a 19" mono CRT for about $50. Can I load Linux >> 68K on it? Would it support my Quantum LPS270S HD? > >It's the same CPU as a 3/160 but in a desktop case (similar to a 3/60 >or 3/50) rather than a pedestal. SunOS 3.5 or 4.x, or NetBSD-sun3, >should run on it. I don't know about Linux. > What CPU is in it specifically? Would it support my SCSI-2 HD? Anyways, is it worth getting? -- Paul Khoury | | Sent from my ThinkPad 701CS Proudly running OS/2 2.1, OS/2 Warp 3/4, Slackware Linux 2.0.29, and Sun Solaris 2.4 - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 16:18:23 -0400 From: Ken Hansen Subject: Sun IPC for sale To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com Hello, I am selling a Sun IPC w/24 meg ram, 424 HD & cg3 at onsale exchange - if anyone is interested in posting a bid, please link to http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00001203/00522307.htm the opening bid is $75, I would expect it to go a little higher, but am not sure how high (my last one sold for $111, FYI). I apologize for posting a for sale listing here, but I thought there might be a few people interested in what I am offering. Thanks, Ken Hansen khansen@njcc.com - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 18:52:02 -0700 From: "James W. Birdsall" Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #16 To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Pete Joules writes: >Subject: Help - Sun 2 won't boot > >I have just got a Sun 2 clone workststion (Sun boards in an unbranded box) >and it won't boot. FYI, Sun didn't start putting badges on all their boxes until sometime in the Sun-3 era. Of four Sun-2's that I have, two are unlabeled, one is badged by a reseller, and only one has a Sun badge. So lack of a badge doesn't mean it's a clone, that's just the way Sun sold them. >=============[Empty connector]=========[oxxx ooox]==================== This is puzzling. I assume you have a 2/120 or 2/170 (Multibus-based) as the VME-based Sun-2 CPU didn't look anything like this. But there should be two connectors on the edge, with the LEDs between them. >Looking at the table on the back of my 386i and assuming that: >1) They are the same codes.. No. If any two types of Sun CPU had the same codes, it was purely by coincidence. >It seems to indicate a CPU board fault with the 3 lights being a field >service code - does anyone have a field service manual so that they can >look it up for me? I just looked in my FE manual and this code by coincidence is the same for all Sun-2 CPUs, whether Multibus- or VME-based: "constant data in memory". The name suggests that it's a memory problem: one or more of your memory boards may be bad, not seated in the slot well, or in the wrong slot. "Sheldon T. Hall" <76701.103@compuserve.com> writes: >Subject: Solaris 2.5.1 dump msg >In the midst of some general fooling around, I got a kernel panic, and my >machine seems to have dumped core to the swap partition. > >Do I have to clean out the swap partition to reclaim the space? No. Unless Solaris does things differently, the system has no idea the kernel dump is there and will blithely swap over it. This is why it is so important to save a kernel dump immediately after rebooting if you want it for debugging purposes. "Paul Khoury" writes: >Subject: Sun 3/75 > >Does anyone know anything about this workstation? All I know is >that I can get one with a 19" mono CRT for about $50. Can I load Linux >68K on it? Would it support my Quantum LPS270S HD? It's a Sun 3/1xx-class CPU in a two-slot VME chassis. The slowest of the Sun-3's, the CPU will have 2M or 4M on it. In the other slot you can put a 2M or 4M board, each of which comes in varieties with and without connectors for a piggyback SCSI board. You should also be able to use some of the boards used in its larger cousins, such as some of the SCSI controllers or larger 3rd-party memory boards. I don't know whether the Sun-3 port of Linux supports this class of machine yet. If it has a SCSI controller, it should support almost any type of single-ended SCSI disk. SCSI's backward compatibility works very well. James W. Birdsall http://www.picarefy.com/~jwbirdsa/ jwbirdsa@picarefy.com "For it is the doom of men that they forget." -- Merlin Get the Sun-2 Hardware Reference from ftp.picarefy.com:/pub/Sun-Hardware-Ref Sun-2 Hardware Reference Web Page: http://sun-www.picarefy.com/ - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 06:34:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Ronald Florence Subject: Uninterruptible Power Supply for Sparc To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Fred Lakin writes: Frequent power outages where I live have prompted me to look into getting a UPS. I have a SS20 with two monitors. Any recommendations? In particular, I am curious about "shutdown software" that might come with any UPS -- what exactly does that do? Could it do it for the Sun Unixes? Try http://www.connix.com/~mlfarm/utilities.html#ups, which is free, readily configurable, and reliable. -- Ronald Florence Maple Lawn Farm, Stonington, CT ron@mlfarm.com http://www.connix.com/~mlfarm - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 May 98 20:32:30 +0100 From: _ Subject: WTT:Solaris for Intel To: "SAH" Subject: WTT:Solaris for Intel Sent: 5/5/98 6:46 pm To: SAH, suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com --==]I AM UK BASED[==-- I have Solaris 2.5 server edition, complete with Solstice (registered). a) I don't really have any need for Solstice, so I would trade it for something (offers please). Anyone sell me or trade me for the first SPARC version CD the first CD and the boot disk required to install this on an Intel? Gold CD would do, since I already have the rest of the boxed set. Hows about it? Anyone give me a copy of the first CD? - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************