Date: Fri, 13 Feb 98 22:20:12 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #7 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Fri, 13 Feb 98 Volume 11 : Issue 7 Today's Topics: Can't seem to add a SCSI disk Current price for SS-10 ? FS: Sun 3/80 Hard disk size for Linux Installation problem/undefined symbols when installing SunPC need Sun 3 mouse Sun Monitor Model #GDM-20D10 sync to SVGA? Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #6 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com | | Requests: suns-at-home-request@net-kitchen.com | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 21:33:57 -0800 From: "Gary W. Cook, System Consultant" Subject: Can't seem to add a SCSI disk To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com > The 424 meg is a Seagate model, and is also set to supply TERM >PWR to the bus, the new drive was tried both ways ... taking >TERM PWR from the bus and supplying its own. FWIW, I also made >sure the appropriate device entries existed ... sd1, sd2 and sd3 >and tried SCSI ID's for the third and fourth disks also. > For what it's worth, the 3/50, 3/60, and 4/110 CPU's do not supply TERMPWR to the SCSI bus. Some revisions of these boards had the pin GROUNDED! External terminators do not work in most cases and may actually cause a problem if they are not receiving TERMPWR, either because it is being grounded or not supplied to the bus. Sun provided termination on the last Emulex or Adaptec adapter inside the 411 "shoebox". -- Gary W. Cook, System Consultant mailto:gcook@netwiz.net http://www.netwiz.net/~gcook Phone: 408-966-9209 Fax: 408-636-2739 Sun - SGI - PC - Unix - NT - WWW - Support - Integration - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:44:08 -0500 (EST) From: jgillman@asylum.cdi.marconi.ca (Joel S Gillman) Subject: Current price for SS-10 ? To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I may have the opportunity to acquire a SS-10 through a private purchase, but I'm unfamiliar with the current prices for such a system. Might anyone on the suns-at-home list with wisdom or experience on this subject be willing to guesstimate a reasonable price, based on the details below? If so, I'd be grateful if you would contribute that information by e-mail, and I'll post a summary of the responses back to the list. I expect that Sun's recent introduction of (relatively) low-cost Ultras may have influenced the price of old, used Sparc 10s; any information recent enough to include that factor would be particularly valuable. The details: Sun SPARCstation 10 system One TMS390Z55 processor module 64 Mb RAM One cgsix frame buffer Three SCSI disks: 424 Mb 1 Gb 2.2 Gb SCSI CD-ROM drive 3 1/2-inch diskette drive No tape drive 19-inch grayscale monitor Type 5 keyboard Optical mouse and pad Speaker box SunOS 4.1.3 Special notes: 1. Yes, the cgsix frame buffer is connected to a grayscale monitor. 2. The diskette drive is broken. 3. This is a private "take it off your hands" transaction, not a commercial sale; however, the current (corporate) owner is not necessarily desperate to get rid of it. Thanks in advance! -- joel - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian L. Brush" Subject: FS: Sun 3/80 To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com FOR SALE: Sun 3/80 Floppy drive 270 MB Quantum LP270S hard drive 16 MB RAM (16 x 1 x 9's) MG4 monochrome frame buffer SunOS 4.1 installed New NVRAM installed CD-R copy of SunOS 4.1 US$100.00 OBO All shipping charges (USPS, UPS, FedEx) to be paid by buyer. Respond by e-mail to brush@acomp.usf.edu. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:36:25 -0700 From: Pete Harbeson Subject: Hard disk size for Linux To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I just acquired a Sparc 2 on which I want to install Linux. It has a 400MB hard disk. Is that sufficient, or should I just start off by adding more HD capacity right away? I'll be using the system for some light-duty development work (PERL and C), technical writing, and home fileserver (assuming I can ever figure out Windows networking). Thanks! Pete Harbeson harbeson@garlic.com - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:55:14 -0100 From: wanderer Subject: Installation problem/undefined symbols when installing SunPC To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hello fellow Sun owners, I have a problem when I'm trying to install the software for the SunPC card (a 486 type). When the script sunpcload is called from the installscript, it is reporting 2 undefined symbols, most likely due to missing a patch. Problem is, which patch to use. I'm using Solaris 2.5.1, and the SunPC software version is 4.1. Question is, is there a patch and if so, where to get it? Thanks, Edward -- The Wanderer | Geloof nooit politicus! wanderer@bos.nl | Europarlementariers: http://www.bos.nl/homes/wanderer | zakkenvullers en dumpplaats voor Unix Lives! windows95 is rommel! | mislukte politici. '96 GSXR 1100R | - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 18:28:14 -0500 From: "Sheldon T. Hall" <76701.103@compuserve.com> Subject: need Sun 3 mouse To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 at 10:41:33 (-0500), danny@mtu.edu (Dan Miller), on the topic "need Sun 3 mouse" said ... >The title says it all. I picked up a beautiful Sun 3/60 and have it running [snip] We have a used computer place here in Seattle that has a pile of Sun 3/xx computers on the "cheap" table. I have no idea what, if any, keyboards they have, or if they will ship. The place is called "Re-PC," and the address is on Sixth Avenue South in Seattle. You might give 'em a call. If they have the stuff, but won't ship, e-mail me and we can work something out. I go to Re-PC from time to time, and I go to the Post office, too.... -Shel Hall 425 643 4494 shel@cis.compuserve.com - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:28:57 -0800 From: "anthony t. daga" Subject: Sun Monitor Model #GDM-20D10 sync to SVGA? To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I'd like to use a Sun Monitor with a PC (through an adapter of VGA male to 13W3 female). Does anyone know if the monitor, a march '94-manufactured Model #GDM-20D10, will sync to SVGA? If so, do you know where I can get that adapter? (or at least the specs for the wiring?) Thanks, anthony - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 13:05:44 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Leir EPS Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #6 To: Dwight McKay Rick Leir rleir@igs.net http://www.igs.net/~rleir 613-828-8289 7951 Rocinante "Keep your head cool, your feet warm and you'll make the best doctor poor" - Hermann Boerhaave On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Dwight McKay wrote: > Now I have a question... is the performance difference between CG3 and CG6 > frame buffers really significant? I've borrowed a CG6 from work and it seems > a little faster but before I fork out cash I wanna make sure I'm not just CG6 is accelerated. Try moving a window around the screen. With the CG3 you might want to use the X11 mode where just the border moves. Do your apps put out XGL 2d graphics? Then you want the CG6. Sun provided a driver for use in X11 back in the old days when Sun was bundling XNEWS instead of X11. This driver was not source: just an object file that linked in with X11. I think this driver knew how to use the acceleration in the CG6. > I would like to improve the colors of my SparcStation 5, but I am > told the S24 is painfully slow. > Is it true ? Is there any better solution ? Do you have 24 bit software? Many apps just use 8 bit colour. I have used a SparcStation 20 SX, and it was perky. It would slow down if you set your DISPLAY env var to hostname:0 instead of unix:0 because then it was sending all X11 traffic through the network stack. cheers -- Rick - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************