Date: Sun, 18 Jan 98 13:25:45 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #3 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Sun, 18 Jan 98 Volume 11 : Issue 3 Today's Topics: Dead SS10 CPU? IPX memory. Netmasks and the SunOS route command No Subject RAM for Sparc 1+ and 2 ? Serial/parallel SBUS card recommendation wanted Solaris- Legality? Solaris 2.3 printed document set for sale Solaris 2.4 Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #2 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com | | Requests: suns-at-home-request@net-kitchen.com | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:35:50 -0600 (CST) From: James Schmidt Subject: Dead SS10 CPU? To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Dear all, I just recently joined this list and wanted to say hello to all, and hope that someone can shed some light on a problem i'm having. I recently peiced together an SPARCStation-10 system at home from new and used parts. It consists of: Original SUN SPARCStation-10 system board (used) Original SUN TMS390Z55 CPU Module (used) Original SUN SS10 case/power supply (new) Original SUN Type-4 Unix keyboard and mouse (used) Seagate ST-1080 (which I ripped out of my SS2, still has Solaris 2.5.1 OS on it, but I don't think matters at this point) CG6 (also ripped from the SS2) 4 x 16M SIMMs (third-party), new Anyway, when I turn the machine on, the keyboard beeps once, the keyboard lights blink twice, and the power supply light blinks once. Then nothing. I've tried pulling the CG6 out and hooking a spare Wyse-50 terminal to the A/B port on the back, but I still get nothing (although someone told me that there is a jumper to change the AB port from RS423 to RS232...is this true? If so, which jumper?) So far i've heard that either my motherboard is fried, I have a bad CPU module, or my memory is bad. As far as memory is concerned i've tried rotating the memory and moving the chips around (even took a single chip and installed it in every slot). If anyone has had this problem and gotten around it, I would surely love to hear from them. Thanks very much. James Schmidt james@wkhs.com - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:08:53 CST From: "Jeremy Rosengren" Subject: IPX memory. To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I was reading the last issue's comments about IPX memory and I was wondering if it was possible to put 32MB 72-pin SIMMs in an IPX and make it work. Anybody ever seen this done? Thanks, -- jeremy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:38:44 -0800 From: Vaughan Pratt Subject: Netmasks and the SunOS route command To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com For the past eight years I've been using a pair of Sparcstations running Rayan Zachariassen's slip code at each end of a 56kb ADN link between work and home. This has worked fine and there's no reason to replace the hardware or software itself, although I'd prefer a much faster connection, but that's an entirely separate project. (Replacing the hardware is not easy because it's a 56kb synchronous line, which the Sun's Zilog 8530 UART handles like a charm but which is beyond the capabilities of the PC universe's asynch-only 16550's.) Recently however I got tired of having to run netscape on the one machine at home, especially given the performance edge of a 300MHz P-II with 2 x 10,000 rpm Cheetahs in a RAID 0 configuration (Bonnie: 27MB/s) over an 80MHz-upgraded IPX (Bonnie: 3MB/s). So I started using NAT (network address translation or masquerading) to allow other than the home end of the link to run netscape. But that had its problems, and now I've simply taken a block of 16 addresses out of the C-class work side network, call this a D-class network. This works much more satisfactorily than NAT, except for the following detail. On the work side, how do you tell the SunOS 4.1.4 router the address of your D-class network? In NET-3 on Linux the route command lets you give the netmask. In 4.1.4 I had expected that the routing code in the kernel would figure this out from slip0's netmask (since the route command itself has no way of specifying the netmask). But when I configure slip with that netmask (which I have to do with "ifconfig slip0 netmask 0xfffffff0" because sliplogin seems to be ignoring the netmask parameter I give it and turns it into 0xffffff00), as soon as I give the route for the D-class network address, all other addresses in the containing C-class net at work also get routed to the slip line, including the C-class net's gateway, which effectively cuts the Sun-at-work off from the world. For now I'm simulating this by putting all 16 addresses into the work end's routing table individually (I have to do this with arp -s, i.e. proxy arp, anyway so it is not such a big deal). But I'd prefer the more elegant solution of being able to specify a single route for the D-class network as a whole. Has anyone run into this, and do you know what the solution is? I guess one way to find out would be to install gated and see what it puts in the 4.1.4 routing table. Also can gated, or vif for that matter, provide network proxy arp to reduce the 16 arp -s's to one? Vaughan Pratt - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:09:12 +0100 From: Tilo Hacke Subject: No Subject To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Since I own lots of Sun 3 boards, but do not own card cages, I am searching for detailed information on the backplanes, in order to modify standard VME-racks appropriately. I especialy urge the connector-pinning of the 3/50 and the 3/260 main and memory boards. Every information is welcome. If anybody owns detailed Hardware-Manuals, I should be glad receiving a copy of it. I am especially searching for repair-manuals. -- ASCIA NEMORI, CALLVMINATOR FLAGITIOSVS - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:22:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Lam Subject: RAM for Sparc 1+ and 2 ? To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hello! I am wondering what kind of RAM does sparc 1+ and 2 uses? I heard that its normal 30 pin Parity RAM. Is that true? How many RAM slots do they have? How many Megs of RAM would I need normally? Would 20 M be good enough to run OpenBSD or Linux? Jason Lam - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:44:04 -0600 From: Matt Crawford Subject: Serial/parallel SBUS card recommendation wanted To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Greetings. I've found a couple of kinds serial/parallel port cards by web searches and I'm wondering if anyone can recommend one over another. I have an original SS-1 (one owner, high mileage!) with one free SBUS slot (that nasty old double-wide GX takes up the rest) and I'm getting tired of the really feeble throughput the on-board serial ports can manage. Both my modem and printer are severely limited by them. 2 Serial ports at 115 or 230 kb/s and a parallel port (my printer can take parallel or serial input) would do me fine, as long as I can use them under 4.1.3. Matt Crawford - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:33:01 -0600 From: Kostas Kritsilas Subject: Solaris- Legality? To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hi, I am slowly putting together a SS1+, and I am to the point where an OS becomes necessary. Solaris is the obvious choice, but the following questions come up: 1. Media (CD-ROM) is inexpensively available. Licenses (Right-to-Use) are expensive. What are the ramifications/potential consequences of using Solaris without a license at home? 2. If licensing is required, has anybody used Linux-Sparc or NetBSD Sparc, which get around the licensing issue, and also don't leave me open to any legality hassles in the future? Any impressions on either operating system, especially in comparison to Solaris 2.5/2.6 would be welcome. Kostas -- Kostas Kritsilas Broadband Networks Inc., 37 Stevenson Road, Winnipeg, MB R3H 0H9 Ph:(204)982-8480 Ext 319 Fax:(204)982-8487 kkritsilas@broadbandnetworks.com/kkritsilas@bigfoot.com - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:33:52 -0800 (PST) From: rodgers@cgl.ucsf.EDU Subject: Solaris 2.3 printed document set for sale To: Suns-at-Home@ecn.purdue.edu Dear Fellow SAHers, We have one nearly complete set of printed Sun Solaris 2.3 manuals for sale: These are in mint condition, many of them still in their original shrink-wrap bundles. These are bound books, not looseleaf documents. Although we will consider selling the books singly, we would prefer to sell them as a set. Send me email if you want a complete list of the individual documents in the set. We are asking $150 for the set. The set of books (weighing approx. 65 lbs.) can be shipped by any means specified by the buyer, who will be expected to cover shipping costs. Regards, Rick Rodgers (rodgers@maxwell.ucsf.edu) - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:47:09 -0600 From: Larry Pazdernik Subject: Solaris 2.4 To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hi All: Im new to this list, and fairly new to sun's, but I'm trying to put a Sun IPC together, and was wondering if anyone knew a source for Sun OS 2.4 or 2.4.1 for fairly cheap. Thanks in advance. -Larry Pazdernik -Computer Information Technician -Kearney Public Schools -308-237-6017 -lpazdern@genie.esu10.k12.ne.us - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:39:15 +1100 (EST) From: Rachel Polanskis Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #2 To: Dwight McKay > On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Steve Simmons wrote: > > > I have a nicely configured SS-10 (85MHz Ross, 96MB ram, lots of disk) > > that has a cgsix frame buffer. Is there (a) a list of available > > fbs that work in the 10s and their performance characteristics, and > > (b) a generallly good source for them? > > I don't know about a list of compatible cards, but you may find that the > Frame Buffer FAQ has some useful information. You can find it at: > > http://tarl.net/FAQ/FrameBuffer.html Hi, The SPARC 10 can support the SX framebuffer, which is a 24bit VSIMM. It occupies a SIMM slot (with an extension slot) and provides 24bit accelerated graphics - it's very nice. 3d (Open GL) is supported but is a bit slow for my tastes (I Use an Ultra1 at work) but the 24bit graphics makes a really wonderful system. I've actually got an SS20 at home, so the setup of the SS10 might be a bit different. I know all SS10's should have the SX expansion slot situated with SIMM slot 0 and 2 on the motherboard. Have a look on the back panel, and see if your has the full SX option - there should be a 13W3 connector on the back. If not, don't despair, it means you might have to get the SX adaptor as well as the VSIMM. This connector occupies an SBUS slot (I think) and then allows you to plug into the board and access the VSIMM. There's a 4MB and 8MB VSIMM option - and prices vary from USD200 - 600 depending on where you go. I got mine from TK technologies, and it was tested for me before it was installed (I bought it with my system). http://www.execpc.com/~tkeidl/ I don't have any affiliation with TK Technologies, apart from being a very satisfied customer... BTW, someone mentioned a few months ago that the copies of Solaris 2.6 that were being sold by TK Technologies for USD99 (desktop) and USD159 (server) couldn't possibly come with RTU licenses. The copy of 2.6 I bought from there indeed came with the Binary RTU license, so the software is very good value. It also came with the standard licensing for all the 2.6 value added products, like disksuite, PPP and Autoclient etc. What you don't get is the "Get Current, Stay Current" promotion from Sun, which didn't matter to me, since it's not available in Australia anyway! Besides, all patches for 2.6 are readily available from Sunsolve, so I have everything I need! rachel (Current home Sun collection includes IPC, IPX and SS20 ;) Rachel Polanskis University of Western Sydney, Nepean UNIX Admin PO Box 10, Kingswood NSW 2747 Systems && Operations Computing && Communications Division K'wood r.polanskis@nepean.uws.edu.au Phone: +61 (47) 360 291 - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************