Date: Fri, 2 Jan 98 20:16:06 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V11 #1 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Fri, 2 Jan 98 Volume 11 : Issue 1 Today's Topics: [Q] Install SUNOS on a SUN 4/110 ? Apollo monitor with a Sun Frame buffers for SS-10 FSTAB IPC value, operating systems... Problems with 4/260 scsi bus RAM for SUN IPX SS5 Memory Sun as DHCP client sun ipc`s Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #45 Wanted: Solaris 2.4 distribution +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com | | Requests: suns-at-home-request@net-kitchen.com | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:43:15 +0100 (CET) From: Jens Baedeker Subject: [Q] Install SUNOS on a SUN 4/110 ? To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Dear all, i have a SUN 4/110 chasis with an external Box and some scsi disks. The boot prom is rev. 1.8, there is 20 MB Ram installed and the prom says it is a sun 4/110?? I have a solaris 1.1 CD and some 4.1.2 tapes. What are the steps to get this maschine up and running with a "fresh" SUNOS. I only have the cd/tape medium. There is a linux with a cdrom and a sparc 1+ with solaris 2.5.1 available. any hints ? regards Jens -- Even geduld het laden van deze pagina duurt iets langer. - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 01:34:48 -0500 (EST) From: "R. D. Davis" Subject: Apollo monitor with a Sun To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Having a several Sun workstations that are quite a bit faster than my Apollo DN3500, I'm wondering if I can use the 19" 1280x1024 Mitsubushi (IIRC) color monitor with a CG3 or CG6 graphics board. The Apollo monitor only has 3 connectors (RG&B) on it; can some of the connectors on the CG6 be left unused? Also, can someone recommend an inexpensive source of RAM for a 4/330 system, and a source for the latest version of an operating system that will run on this machine? I've got a Sun CD ROM drive that I can use with it. -- R.D. Davis PERQ Logic Systems rdd@access.digex.net Computer Consulting & Custom Software ...!uunet!mystica!rdd (410) 744-4900 http://www.access.digex.net/~rdd - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 15:14:58 -0500 From: Steve Simmons Subject: Frame buffers for SS-10 To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I have a nicely configured SS-10 (85MHz Ross, 96MB ram, lots of disk) that has a cgsix frame buffer. Is there (a) a list of available fbs that work in the 10s and their performance characteristics, and (b) a generallly good source for them? -- ``The pleasures of sudden wonder are soon exhausted, and the mind can only repose upon the stability of truth.'' -- Samuel Johnson - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 07:20:12 -0600 From: Matt Crawford Subject: FSTAB To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com > the CD shows up on probe-scsi in the PROM monitor. However, When I > try and mount it, I am informed that it is not found in /etc/fstab You're probably using the short form of the mount command. Use the long form. mount -rt hsfs /dev/whatever /cdrom - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:32:10 -0600 From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Subject: IPC value, operating systems... To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hello Suns-At-Home, I'm a new subscriber with two lovely brand new (to me) heavily used Suns... SS1+ boxen. Hey, it's a start. Here's my newbie subscriber gushing first post (someone suppress that dormouse). >You can still run useful work on a SS2 if you give it enough memory. You can still run useful work on a SS1 if you're using it as a server. I've just finished shoehorning OpenBSD 2.2 into a 1+ (on two Quantum Pro-series 105 MB hard disks!) and once I've installed all the s/w I'll have a nice fileserver for our wintel boxes using Samba (with an external disk, of course). OpenBSD is a bit chunkier than 4.1.4, but XFree86 is way faster than OpenWindows. Just have to figure out where to get a monitor for that sucker. I was *quite* pleasantly surprised by the performance of that old CG3 card when I fired it up at work to test things out. Which leads into... >Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 06:15:12 EST >From: "Harry Regan" >Subject: Recycling IPCs >I'd like a quick opinion: In a recent office move, my employer found >two "retired" SparcStation IPC machines. One is dead-- no signs of life >at all. The other works but appears to have hard disk problems (it >complains about not being able to mount a partition). I expressed an >interest in them and have been asked put in a bid. Does anyone out there >have an idea what a "reasonable offer" for these things would be? ACS no longer quotes that class of machine, but I paid $60.00 each for my Sparcstation 1+ boxes, including shipping, They were diskless (hence the oddball disk configuration... speaking of which, where can I get sleds from... I about ruined my nibbler fitting an old DECstation carrier into there with velcro tape and stuff, I'd rather do things the right way in the future?) but had 16M of RAM each. These were known working machines. You don't know what else might be broken in them... try offering $100 for both base units and gear, but don't pay more than you can get a mail-order box... dig around on http://www.apcom.com/ particularly in their random parts section http://www.apcom.com/frames/parts.txt . >Assuming I get these guys and get at least one running, is there >anywhere I can get a reasonable (i.e. cheap) copy of SunOS or Solaris? OpenBSD is cheap (like $30 for the CDROM) and snappy, but you'll want at least 200 MB in a single disk if you don't want to play Torquemada games on the disk layout. And another reader writes... >I have a spare GDM-1604A15 sun monitor. I have a dx2/66 with an >ATI-Mach32 w/2 megs running FreeBSD. Is this card enough to run this >sun monitor? Probably not, that monitor is fixed frequency. You really want to get a Photon Torpedo or other fixed-frequency capable card. http://www.photonweb.com/fixedfrequencyscanmultisync3dmtv/ is the one I've seen recomended. - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:01:20 +0200 (EET) From: Willi Messmer Subject: Problems with 4/260 scsi bus To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hi, Having some trouble with my 4/260 scsi bus. It has worked just fine with Emulex (XT4380, some other as alike esdi). Then I tried attaching Sun CDROM. I had some success but netbsd12 didn't just like it for some reason. After playing with it, I replaced the cdrom with Quantum P452S drive and runned it successfully for some hours. Note here, that the cabinet was quite open and drives just put on in for temporal use. Then the troubles started to occur. Since I was testing netbsd121 and some disk reconfigurations, I had to shut the system down many times (that was about 20 times in one evening). First the scsibus started acting funny, so I had to power on-off to get it boot from the Quantum (the test drive). It just didn't warmboot any more. After a couple of boots, it went completely nuts. Here's the error message I'm getting all the time: getbyte error, phase mismatch invalid status msg = FFFFFFFF scsi: bus busy scsi: bus busy device not found It appears to me that there's digital noise in the cabling or the termination / drivers aren't quite working. After checking a bit the cabling, I tested some other positions for the 50pin unshielded. Viola, I worked again. But, after putting the guts back in the cabinet and the inside cabling just as it was, the same busy error kept coming. I even tried an other NCR5380 chip, no success. Could anyone give me some hint what's going on here? /wm . Willi Messmer, Laserkatu 4 A 4, 53850 LAPPEENRANTA FINLAND . Email: messmer@lut.fi, messmer@messmer.lnet.lut.fi . Phone: +358 5 624 3172 (work), +358 50 593 5795, Fax: +358 5 412 0949 - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 19:52:21 +0200 (EET) From: Prevelakis Vassilis Subject: RAM for SUN IPX To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hi, I have a SUN IPX at home with only 16Mb RAM (on one SIMM). I have tried to add SIMMs from PCs (with parity) but I always end up with memory errors after a couple of hours of use. So the question is whether the IPX needs special SIMMs or whether I am missing something regarding the use of PC RAM SIMMs (with parity). Thanks **vp@unipi.gr - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 14:29:26 +0100 (CET) From: "Soren S. Jorvang" Subject: SS5 Memory To: Curt Sampson On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, Curt Sampson wrote: > I've got an SS5/70 with a single 32 MB DIMM in it right now. I > really need to add another 32 MB to it. The computer shops around > here sell 32 MB "ECC" DIMMs, used in high-end PC motherboards, for > around Cdn$125 each, which is considerably cheaper that even > third-party RAM specific for Suns. I'm wondering if this memory > will work in my SS5, in the same way that standard parity 72-pin > SIMMs work in my IPX, or if I really do need to go out and buy > "Sun-specific" memory. Can anyone help me out here? "ECC" (really 72-bit) DIMMs currently sold for PC motherboards are usually EDO memory for PR440FX-based PC designs. As such (EDO), they will probably not work in an SS5. http://www.memoryx.com/ seem to have memory for most Sun models, both offical Sun memory as well as third-party memory. At $134US, their SS5 32MB DIMMs are a bit more expensive than the ones you can get locally, though. As I have only heard good things about them, I intend to buy memory there, once I get hold of a SS that cannot use common SIMMs. Anyone with a nice, cheap, bare-ish SS10 for sale? (private mail, please). -- Soren - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 15:08:28 -0800 From: Dan Mahoney Subject: Sun as DHCP client To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com I've set up Sun machines to run DHCP servers before with no major problems. Pretty straightforward, not too difficult. Now I'm facing a whole new task - I need to set up a couple of SparcStations (one running Solaris 2.5 and one running Solaris 2.6) to run DHCP *clients*. Specifically, I have to dial in to my local ISP to connect to the 'Net, and I *don't* want to pay the stiff extra monthly fee for a static IP address. I have been able to find lots of pointers on setting a SparcStation to run DHCP *server*; can anyone point me to info on setting up the SS to run DHCP client? -- -------------------------------------------------------- Dan Mahoney Riverside Press Enterprise dmahoney@pe.net - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:55:06 -0500 (EST) From: Clarence Wilkerson Subject: sun ipc`s To: geezbox@hotmail.com If these have a color monitor, might be worth a few hundred. The bases stripped are going for $100 or so. You can run NetBSD or OpenBSD on these. Free from the net. Clarence Wilkerson - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 17:46:19 -0500 From: Bob Smart Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #45 To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com > > Suns-at-Home Digest Fri, 26 Dec 97 Volume 10 : Issue 45 > > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 20:35:54 -0800 (PST) > From: James Lockwood > Subject: IPC simms, SS10 vs SS5 > To: Toerless Eckert > > > Somebody _threw out_ a 4600 board? *boggle* Tell me when I can come > clean out your dumpsters. :) Along these lines and possibly saving a 4/600 from going into a dumpster I have an almost complete 4/670 that needs a home. I say almost complete because the CD-ROM has been removed along with one of 3 SCSI disks. It still has a QIC-150 Tape, 2 Internal SCSI disks ( I think ~1.5 GB each) and two trays of Rack mount IPI disks ( 4 1.3 GB disks per tray) It has been sitting in my computer room for about 6 months powered off and was sitting at the hardware prompt for about 6 months before that. I need the space and would like to find a home where it can be used. It was a very reliable server running 4.1.3 for years ( It's brother is still a 4.1.3 server) Started to upgrade to 2.5 ( or maybe 2.5.1) when priorities shifted. Never got back to it and it's obvious now that we don't need it. There were no known hardware problems at the time. I also have a stack of old Sun distribution tapes. Stuff from 4.0.3 ( maybe even earlier than that) up to the time when Sun stopped shipping on tape. I have tapes for 68020, 68030, SPARC. These are definitely free to good home. There is also a standalone SCSI 9 Track that needs to be gotten rid of. It is a CIPHER 880 if I remember right ( hasn't been turned on in at least 3 years :-) We are in the Washington DC area ( Tysons Corner) and as swamped as I am the less I have to do to clean this stuff out the better! Bob Smart IT Site Manager Rational Software - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:34:12 -0500 (EST) From: "R. D. Davis" Subject: Wanted: Solaris 2.4 distribution To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com If anyone has a spare Solaris 2.4 CD, I'm interested in purchasing it to use with my Sun 4/110 or 4/330 (I seem to recall that this version of Solaris is the last one to work on these machines; correct?). Is there anything on a 4/110 or 4/330 that needs to be configured or changed in order to allow a Sun CD-ROM drive to work with a 4/110 or 4/330? Also, if anyone has some spare 4/330 memory, I'm interested in purchasing that as well. Do I recall correctly that only 1MB SIMMs can be used in a 4/330? -- R.D. Davis PERQ Logic Systems rdd@access.digex.net Computer Consulting & Custom Software ...!uunet!mystica!rdd (410) 744-4900 http://www.access.digex.net/~rdd - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************