Date: Sun, 9 Nov 97 14:56:07 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #39 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Sun, 9 Nov 97 Volume 10 : Issue 39 Today's Topics: More formatting adventures Not Executable message... PPP and IPforwarding on Solaris 2.6 with USR Sportster 56k Removing RAM chips from Sparc 2 board Solbourne, scsiinfo Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #38 (2 msgs) two heads -- OW3 and fb's of the same type +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home \ | | Requests: suns-at-home-request > @net-kitchen.com | | Archives: suns-at-home-archives / | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:52:27 -0500 (EST) From: raub@kushana.aero.ufl.edu (Mauricio Tavares) Subject: More formatting adventures To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Following the suggestions given by Andrew Hay , I installed scsi_info and used it to create the following format.dat entry for my hard drive: disk_type = "SAMSUNG WN32162U" \ : ctlr = SCSI : fmt_time = 5 \ : trks_zone = 29545 : atrks = 0 : asect = 0 \ : ncyl = 4769 : acyl = 2 : pcyl = 5909 : nhead = 4 : nsect = 222 \ : rpm = 5400 : bpt = 130536 partition = "SAMSUNG WN32162U" \ : disk = "SAMSUNG WN32162U" : ctlr = SCSI \ : a = 0, 41736 : b = 47, 131424 : c = 0, 4234872 : d = 195, 65712 \ : e = 269, 164280 : f = 454, 819624 : g = 1377, 3012096 Then I try to feed that to format # format -f samsung.dat -s sd2 No sense error during read ASC: 0x0 ASCQ: 0x0 No sense error during read ASC: 0x0 ASCQ: 0x0 `disk_type' is not expected. # What is it trying to tell me? -- ===========================+========================================== | Mauricio Tavares | "We will attack... | | raub@kushana.aero.ufl.edu | ...under the cover of daylight!" Rimmer | ===========================+========================================== - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:57:54 -0800 (PST) From: Kwoody Subject: Not Executable message... To: SUNS-AT-HOME I have 3 copies of SunOS 4.1 on tape. All original tapes, in cases...all tapes in great shape. I have tried to boot off of all three copies but I get not executable messages on all of them. Now it would be incredbly bad luck if all tapes were screwed up but dont think so. the tape drive works as I have backed stuff up on it and rstored from it using tar various times so the tape drive works. Myabe I'm doing something wrong but i will give a quick rundown on what I'm doing. Shutdown, then when in single user, halt the system and am left at the > prompt. I type b st() the tape goes for a few seconds then I'm dropped to a boot: prompt. I type st() the tape spins for few moments and it give me a message Not Executable then I'm back at the boot: again. So I try st(0,0,0) and it just get dropped to the boot: again. I need to re-install the OS cause the os as it is now is really broken. For info's sake here is the output of dmesg: SunOS Release 4.1 (GENERIC) #1: Wed Nov 14 17:57:10 PST 1990 Copyright (c) 1983-1990, Sun Microsystems, Inc. mem = 12288K (0xc00000) avail mem = 10993664 Ethernet address = 8:0:20:6:99:e9 si0 at obio 0x140000 pri 2 st0 at si0 slave 32 st1 at si0 slave 40 sr0 at si0 slave 48 sd0 at si0 slave 0 sd0: sd1 at si0 slave 1 sd2 at si0 slave 8 sd3 at si0 slave 9 sd4 at si0 slave 16 sd6 at si0 slave 24 zs0 at obio 0x20000 pri 3 zs1 at obio 0x0 pri 3 le0 at obio 0x120000 pri 3 cgfour0 at obmem 0xff300000 pri 4 bwtwo1 at obmem 0xff400000 bwtwo1: resolution 1152 x 900 root on sd0a fstype 4.2 swap on sd0b fstype spec size 19950K dump on sd0b fstype spec size 19920K Is there a different way to boot off of a sun tape? Or is the mesg that I get not executable a sign of a broken tape? I have a 3/60 with eeprom v.3.01. Tape drive is an archive. Tapes are: SunOS 4.1 Sun/bin (Qic-24) bootable tape 1 of 1 and 2 of 2. All are the same and I have 6 tapes total, for 3 sets. Thanks for any info! kwoody@citytel.net - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:08:05 -0400 From: panther@webexpert.net (Marvin Moore) Subject: PPP and IPforwarding on Solaris 2.6 with USR Sportster 56k To: sun-managers@ra.mcs.anl.gov, sun-386i@itc.yorku.ca, Hello all, Just got my hands on a Solarix 2.6 Intel Version and I have it connected to a "Local LAN" at home. (Powerbook, PowerMac 7600 running MKlinux and a NEC Ready with Solaris 2.6) Here's the deal: I want my NEC to be a router to my local ISP so that I can access the Internet from any machine on my network. I need a top level approach at this. I know that I will need to do an ifconfig for the modem so that I will be able to use the NEC as a router. Here are some issues that I'm wondering about.... 1) I dont want PPP to startup everytime I boot up but only on demand 2} How exactly do I implement IPforwarding and the routing 3) How would I set up the PPP 4) How would I get Solaris to "see" the modem 5) And any other tips you may think I need for this task Thanks in Advance Marvin - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:42:53 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Sampson Subject: Removing RAM chips from Sparc 2 board To: Kaleidospace > From: editors@kspace.com (Kaleidospace) > Subject: Removing RAM chips from Sparc 2 board I simply use a small flathead screwdriver to hold the locking pin out of the hole in the side of the SIMM while I pull straight up on the end with a pair of needle nose pliers. cjs Curt Sampson cjs@portal.ca Info at http://www.portal.ca/ Internet Portal Services, Inc. Through infinite myst, software reverberates Vancouver, BC (604) 257-9400 In code possess'd of invisible folly. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:40:18 -0500 From: adh@an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker) Subject: Solbourne, scsiinfo To: Suns-at-Home-List@tigger.net-kitchen.com, From: Anthony Talltree Subject: Look for an sbus card, Solbourne, 3/60 memory > From: swegerm@baileys-emh5.army.mil (Michael Sweger) > Subject: Problem booting Solbourne machine with error code. > 64Meg RAM each running Sunos4.1. This machine is slowly > dying and we can't get any maintenance support for it anymore (went > out of business). Solbourne had good stuff and some good folks. Grumman bought their yes indeed; i well remember. grumman wasn't very interested, though -- they landfilled all work on improved and/or enhanced products. one was a way to link two kbus chassis so you'd have enough slots to run 8 processors -and- 4G ram. fujitsu probably wasn't, either; i think they only invested in solbourne so they could get the engineering talent. i also thought at the time that they missed a real bet in not hooking up with a sparc10 clone maker and porting solos 4.1c to it. sunos 4.1.4 - and 4.1.3 with the ross patch - was mp-safe [for both supersparc -and- hypersparc, btw], but solos was mp-hot. what does this mean? with solaris2 already on the market, sun only did the minumum so that sunos could run more than one processor without crashing. solbourne did a lot of tweaking on the kernel code to improve performance out of multiple processors, particularly for i/o. perhaps one of the *bsd kernels is mp-hot... > The machine kept on working in spite of this but just lost a good > 64M RAM allocated to this bad processor Eh? The way I remember the Series 4 & 5 machines is that memory just resided on the Kbus. What sort of machine do you have? i remember this also. - ------------------------------ From: Craig Dewick Subject: Problem booting Solbourne machine with error code. > From: swegerm@baileys-emh5.army.mil (Michael Sweger) > Subject: Problem booting Solbourne machine with error code. > > I'm having trouble booting a Solbourne dual processor machine with > 64Meg RAM each running Sunos4.1. This machine is slowly > dying and we can't get any maintenance support for it anymore (went > out of business). Here are the problems with it: Solbourne sold their hardware maintenance and support to Grumman Systems Support Corporation sometime in 1993. Take a look at 'http://www.nts.gssc.com/solbourne.html' for more info. summer. i was working a short contract at a xerox division with a solbourne as their principal server at the time. i got to know the field service engineer pretty well... we never got it running -really- perfectly. - ------------------------------ From: John DiMarco >> if you don't have it already, scsiinfo can interrogate any drive and >> spit out a format.dat-style entry for it. get it. use it. love it. This is true only if the drive is labelled using the settings that scsiinfo generates. It's possible to label a SCSI drive with any number of different values for sector-per-track, number-of-heads, etc. Use format to find out what settings your disk label currently contains. but i interrogated a sun0424 drive - which is formatted with 80 sectors per cylinder - and scsiinfo spit out a format with 64 sectors per cylinder. found 7Mb more per disk too. okay, 64 is in the seagate specs for the st1481 - but the drive had been formatted and labeled with the sun0424 entry. this was back in sunos4 days, and format couldn't 'read' a drive the way scsiinfo and solaris2 format can. ___________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay | never criticise someone until you've walked internet rambler | a mile in their shoes; that way you're at a adh@an.bradford.ma.us | safe distance and they can't run after you. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 04:03:00 -0600 From: "n.w. choe" Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #38 To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com In response to the following message, re: removing simms from a sparc2 (or other sun): I've used needle-nose pliers for a while now. pull straight up and take your time... use several little "nips" rather than one "lunge". pull left side up, pull right side, left, right etc... -- n-choe@mail.bsd.uchicago.edu "root compromise? check." BSD Academic Computing - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:56:30 -0500 From: Jay Plett Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #38 To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 22:07:46 -0800 > From: editors@kspace.com (Kaleidospace) > Subject: Removing RAM chips from Sparc 2 board I've had the best luck with a simple tool which you might already have, else you can readily find one at any hardware store. It's one of those L-shaped hex keys (allen wrench). Size isn't critical, but the size that fits the screws that Sun used to use to secure VME boards is good. The SIMMs have a small round hole at each end which is engaged by some sort of clip when inserted (it's been a long time; I don't remember exactly what it looks like). The trick is to press the shorter leg of the hex key into the hole, pushing the engaging clip out of the way, while using the hex key as a lever to lift the SIMM slightly. You might need to "walk" it out a few steps on alternate ends until it is loose enough to simply pull out. The first SIMM is the hardest because on some machines there's not a good surface to lever against, but it can be done. The rest are easy. ...jay - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Nov 97 14:45:42 PST From: lakin@pgc.com (Fred Lakin) Subject: two heads -- OW3 and fb's of the same type To: adrian@internode.com.au Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:48:49 -0500 (EST) From: David Young Subject: Dual Frame Buffers To: adrian@internode.com.au > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 17:25:24 CST > From: Adrian Corston > Subject: Two heads are better than one (SS-I with two monitors) > To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com > > I have an SS-I with two cgthree cards, and I figure it's about time to > get the second cgthree card up and running. On boot I see: > > cgthree0 at SBus slot 2 0x0 pri 7 > cgthree1 at SBus slot 3 0x0 pri 7 > > So I'm halfway there. I run X11R4 (eek oh well). When I try to run: > > /usr/bin/X11/X -dev /dev/cgthree1 :1 > > I see this error: > > Fatal server bug! > no screens found It has been my experience that the typical X server is built to support one frame buffer of a particular class. Modifications are required to support two frame buffers of the same class. (We run X11 and Motif, not Openwindows. I don't know if Openwin supports multiple fb's of the same class. We never tried it) Combinations we use: cgthree0 and cgsix0 Hope this helps David Young For what it's worth, Openwindows 3.0 supports multiple framebuffers of the same type. On my Sparc, with two cgsix cards: cgsix0 at SBus slot 1 0x0 pri 9 (sbus level 5) cgsix1 at SBus slot 2 0x0 pri 9 (sbus level 5) I use this incantation: openwin -dev /dev/cgsix0 right -dev /dev/cgsix1 left where first in list becomes display :0.0 , and the trailing right and left tell OW how to track the cursor across monitors. I also had an old black and white card, and used this: openwin -dev /dev/bwtwo0 right -dev /dev/cgsix0 left regards, -f - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************