Date: Tue, 3 Jun 97 13:45:26 EST From: Dwight McKay (The Moderator) Reply-To: Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com Subject: Suns-at-Home Digest V10 #19 To: Suns-at-Home-List Suns-at-Home Digest Tue, 3 Jun 97 Volume 10 : Issue 19 Today's Topics: cheap sparc / solaris solution? File list for boot tapes NFS, AIX 3.2, diskless sun3 and netBSD (2 msgs) old shoe boxes disk+tape - can't see the tape on pc w/scsi? Solaris Dynamic IP addr? Sun Hardware Reference update +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Submissions: suns-at-home \ | | Requests: suns-at-home-request > @net-kitchen.com | | Archives: suns-at-home-archives / | | WWW Archive access: http://www.net-kitchen.com/~sah | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 13:42:01 +0000 From: "loki" Subject: cheap sparc / solaris solution? To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hello, I have been trying to find a cheap way to learn solaris 2.x and sparc assembly language. I've been reading faqs, lurking on .forsale newsgroups (everything in my price range is gone by the time I get there) and surfing the web for manufacturers. If anyone here could please answer these questions: 1. is anyone making cheap sparc motherboards (with low end cpus - expensive 10GHz need not apply) that can be plunked into cheapo PC cases? Can this hypothetical board use IDE? 2. can one run Sun graphics on SVGA monitors? perhaps throttling the resolution down?- I've seen a company that makes the connectors, and I've seen posts that say 'yes, i did it others that say no, I had no luck. Any definitive answers here? If these 2 conditions are met, all I would need is the motherboard, and I could reuse old peecee hardware lying around here. That would leave solaris, preferably at the student discount rate. If all else fails, which of the used resellers are a good, reliable deal? - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:49:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel S. Kosack" Subject: File list for boot tapes To: suns-at-home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Hello! Would anyone happen to have the file list for the SunOS 4.0 SPARC boot tapes? I just got a 4/110, and the only thing I have to boot with it (which is NOT Linux, NetBSD, or otherwise) is a collection of SunOS 4.0 tapes. I found the copy program at (0,0,2), but I need to find the partition/format/label program and miniroot, so I can partition the disk and copy the miniroot on over. Thanks in advance! -- Dan Kosack kosack@fred.net - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:15:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Earl N Crane Subject: NFS, AIX 3.2, diskless sun3 and netBSD To: Outbound News , I am trying to install netBSD on a sun 3/60, and the only way I can seems to be through an NFS boot off an RISC/6000 running AIX 3.2. I have tried the little that I know, but I can't figure out how to make the Sun boot off the AIX. Does it need to be configured as a diskless client? How should it be set up if it's NFS booted. Right now the Sun is trying to get its IP address, and I don't know how to tell the AIX to give it one. Please help!? If there is a better way to get this OS on disk, please tell me!? I don't have a tape drive that will work with the sun3's old SCSI, and I can't get any other machines to read the sun's old SCSI drive. Would it help if I were trying to do this off linux rather than AIX? Does it make a difference. (I could get a linux box) Please help!? Earl Crane -Please mail me with any responses. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 11:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Sampson Subject: NFS, AIX 3.2, diskless sun3 and netBSD To: Earl N Crane On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Earl N Crane wrote: > I have tried the little that I know, but I can't figure out how to make > the Sun boot off the AIX. Does it need to be configured as a diskless > client? How should it be set up if it's NFS booted. Check out the diskless(8) manual page in the NetBSD distribution. cjs Curt Sampson cjs@portal.ca Info at http://www.portal.ca/ Internet Portal Services, Inc. Through infinite myst, software reverberates Vancouver, BC (604) 257-9400 In code possess'd of invisible folly. - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:27:58 -0400 From: Brad Parker Subject: old shoe boxes disk+tape - can't see the tape on pc w/scsi? To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com Dear suns-at-home, (doesn't *everyone* have a sun at home? or at least some sun parts :-) Recently I was given two old Sun-2/Sun-3 style giant-shoebox boxes with 1/4" tape and disks inside. One looks like it has an ST-506 disk inside and SCSI-to-QIC converter board between the SCSI bus and tape. The other has a SCSI disk and a newer generation SCSI-to-QIC converter board between the SCSI bus and tape. In both cases the disks are either dead or missing. But the tape units were working (or so someone claimed). I assumed the tape drive was SCSI and would work on a PC with a SCSI interface (an adaptec pci card). I plugged each on into the PC and ran the Adaptec diags - neither one showed up on the scsi probe. I ran Linux and FreeBSD and neither one saw the tape drive. Both got wedged up trying to talk to it, however. It seems to respond to SCSI id 4. Anyone have any idea why? I suppose the scsi-to-quick converter is non-standard and very old... (but, perhaps there is a jumper or something I can change?) Would my IPX see the tape drive? (I suppose I could just try that) -brad - ------------------------------ Date: 26 May 97 20:31:19 EDT From: "Sheldon T. Hall" <76701.103@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Solaris Dynamic IP addr? To: "Dwight McKay (The Moderator)" Folks- Does the built-in PPP support on Solaris 2.5.1 include dynamic IP address capability when the Solaris machine is used as a dial-up TCP/IP router? I've been given a Sun SPARCstation IPX, which I have up and running SunOS 4.1.3. 16 megs of memory, 424 meg HD. I'm using terminal and telnet access for admin purposes, though I have a keyboard for the thing, and enough of an adaptor to let me use a PC monitor in a pinch. My primary use for the IPX would be as a router, giving my home network dial-on-demand access to the Internet through a local ISP. I've seen this done; a local chap (and s-a-h list subscriber) uses the Morningstar package to achieve it under SunOS 4.1.3. As the Morningstar package far exceeds my budget for this stuff, I'm looking into lower-cost alternatives. I've been offered an "upgrade" to Solaris 2.5.1, which I understand has built-in PPP capabilities. Given my Unix/SunOS expertise (none!), this seems a bit safer than the kernel rebuilding and other foofaraw required to implement PPP under SunOS. Am I correct in assuming that Solaris would be a good solution for this, and would serve as a dial-up router for the other machines on my network? Thanks. -Shel -- Sheldon T. Hall 76701.103@compuserve.com The hardest mountain to climb is the one you just fell off. - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:11:48 -0700 From: "James W. Birdsall" Subject: Sun Hardware Reference update To: Suns-at-Home@tigger.net-kitchen.com, chicks@chicks.net, george@intnet.net, I know things have been moving rather slowly with the Sun Hardware Reference of late, but I am working on it as time permits. Honest. The latest in-progress version may be found at: ftp://ftp.picarefy.com/pub/Sun-Hardware-Ref/working/ Note that "working" used to be "alpha" -- I changed it in order to avoid confusion. With this drop, the CPU/motherboard and companion MBus module sections are completely reformatted. In addition, I've done some work on the Sun Hardware Reference web page. Right now it contains about the same information as it did previously, but at least there aren't any dangling links anymore, and I hope to be updating it frequently in parallel with the reformatting of the flat-text version. -- James W. Birdsall http://www.picarefy.com/~jwbirdsa/ jwbirdsa@picarefy.com "For it is the doom of men that they forget." -- Merlin Get the Sun Hardware Reference from ftp.picarefy.com:/pub/Sun-Hardware-Ref Sun Hardware Reference Web Page: http://sun-www.picarefy.com/ - ------------------------------ End of Suns-at-Home Digest ******************************