From walter+rescue@belgers.com Sun Nov 4 13:43:03 2007 From: walter+rescue@belgers.com (Walter Belgers) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 14:43:03 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun386i floppy set available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> Anthony D'Atri wrote: > Doing some housecleaning I found a set of 20 roadrunner floppies, > SunOS 4.0.0 apparently. Free for the cost of shipping from the > Seattle WA area if anyone wants them. They have just arrived after a long journey over the pond. Thanks Anthony!! I got to them just in time. They are starting to deteriorate, but with several floppy drives and many retries I was finally able to extract all that is on them. I have put the floppy images temporarily (will be removed before 2008) on my web site: http://www.belgers.com/walter/computers/SunOS_4.0.0_i386.tgz Cheers, Walter. -- Walter Belgers -=- Netherlands -=- walter@belgers.com -=- http://gigawa.lt/ From nicholas.thompson1@mchsi.com Mon Nov 5 04:20:29 2007 From: nicholas.thompson1@mchsi.com (nick thompson) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:20:29 -0600 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun386i floppy set available In-Reply-To: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> References: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> Message-ID: <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> Walter Belgers wrote: > They have just arrived after a long journey over the pond. Thanks > Anthony!! > > I got to them just in time. They are starting to deteriorate, but with > several floppy drives and many retries I was finally able to extract > all that is on them. > > I have put the floppy images temporarily (will be removed before 2008) > on my web site: > > http://www.belgers.com/walter/computers/SunOS_4.0.0_i386.tgz > , > Cheers, > Walter. > I just wanted to thank both you for hosting the images / rescuing the images, as well as the original poster for getting them to you. I love this list! I have been trying to get a 386i for years now. The search continues, but now I have an Operating System!! Thanks! BTW, I do basically what you do, rescue *nix systems, though I must admit to have bought a few. :) Anyhow, impressive page!!! , Regards, Nick "All unix, all the time." http://npt.ath.cx From benjamin.lewis@belgacom.net Tue Nov 6 08:00:07 2007 From: benjamin.lewis@belgacom.net (Ben Lewis) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:00:07 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] http://www.obsolyte.com/ In-Reply-To: <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> References: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> Hi Folks Does anyone know what's become of http://www.obsolyte.com/ ? I see the last entry on the front page was a pointer to this list. I really like the content and attitude on the site and have been reading it since I got my first Sparcstation LX at home. I always go back there for the serial console info http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/serial/ It would be good to see it more frequently updated. Best regards Ben From charshman@divus.org Tue Nov 6 16:09:36 2007 From: charshman@divus.org (charshman@divus.org) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:09:36 -0800 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] http://www.obsolyte.com/ In-Reply-To: <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> References: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> Message-ID: On Nov 6, 2007, at 12:00 AM, Ben Lewis wrote: > Does anyone know what's become of http://www.obsolyte.com/ ? Wow, that takes me back. (This is "round 2" for me with Sun equipment; back in 2000, at the start of my career, I picked up a SPARCstation 4 and later an Ultra 1/140 (still have the latter, in addition to an Ultra 10 and a Tadpole Ultrabook), and my then- girlfriend picked up an LX (because she wanted to learn UNIX, and the LX was "cute"). Used to frequent obsolyte.com, sunsunsun.net, sunhelp.org, and I think there was one, blackbox.net or something like that? (Predominantly NeXT oriented, as you might imagine.) If I had to guess -- I'd say most of these sites were busy places around the turn of the century; lots of dot-com dollars made impractical "ooh, cool" purchases commonplace, lots of people trying to get started with Solaris skills or whathaveyou (Linux was on an upswing, but hadn't yet eclipsed Solaris for lots of commodity entry- level UNIX server tasks), and the hardware wasn't *that* outdated yet; Solaris 8 was (circa 2000) on the horizon, but 2.6 and 7 were commonplace and would run quite well on something like a SPARCstation Classic. DEC Multias were still a "thing" in the late 90s, etc. Flash forward seven years, and any machine that can't be populated with 128MB RAM (at least) or more isn't all that useful, even as a learning platform. Solaris 10 (as of 2004) had EOL'd some UltraSPARC machines, let alone the old sun4c, sun4m, etc. architectures. I see on eBay's completed items list a Sun Ultra 10 3D 440MHz / 512MB / 20GB / KBD,Mouse that sold for $26, 300-333MHz machines that sold for $9.99, and a /ton/ of Sun hardware that didn't sell at all. I think the buying the stuff to jumpstart learning UNIX / networking / etc. for a hot dot-com job thing is dead, and the hobbyist thing seems to have lost lots of steam. There just doesn't seem to be that much interest, and so maybe the lack of activity on those sites reflects that. That, and the focus of those sites (at least to date) has been on machines that could be made to work reasonably well in 2000, but are now hopelessly out of date. Hmm... Right about that same time (early-mid 2000), RedHat dropped support for SPARC architectures (6.2 was the last release), the UltraLinux.org site hasn't been updated since mid-2003, etc. (There does appear to be current Linux development for SPARC platforms, however.) > I always go back there for the serial console info > > http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/serial/ Hmm. They caution vehemently against using a "LapLink" cable, but I've used them (coupled with a gender changer) for years without issue, connecting a VAIO PCG-Z505R with a port replicator bar, and an old Toshiba Tecra 550CDT (Pentium 120 with a built-in 9-pin serial port, 16550 UART), to a variety of Suns -- Ultra 1, Ultra 2, Ultra 10, SPARCstation 4, SPARCstation LX, SPARCstation 20, and even some big (at the time) iron, an Enterprise 420 and an Enterprise 4500. Have never had an issue getting a console up using `minicom` and those cables (bought mostly because they were readily sourced from Best Buy -- where I worked and had a fat discount ;). From cdewick@lios.apana.org.au Tue Nov 6 19:38:23 2007 From: cdewick@lios.apana.org.au (Craig Dewick) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:38:23 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] http://www.obsolyte.com/ In-Reply-To: <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> References: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Ben Lewis wrote: > Hi Folks > > Does anyone know what's become of http://www.obsolyte.com/ ? > > I see the last entry on the front page was a pointer to this list. > > I really like the content and attitude on the site and have been reading it > since I got my first Sparcstation LX at home. I always go back there for the > serial console info > > http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/serial/ > > It would be good to see it more frequently updated. I did have a contact for the person running that site a long time ago so it might be possible to reach whoever owns it. BTW my ADSL was down for 2 weeks up to yesterday so apologies for bounces to emails, etc. that might have occured if anyone was trying to contact me. 8-) Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From jima@beer.tclug.org Tue Nov 6 20:16:21 2007 From: jima@beer.tclug.org (Jima) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:16:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] http://www.obsolyte.com/ In-Reply-To: References: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, charshman@divus.org wrote: > Hmm... Right about that same time (early-mid 2000), RedHat dropped support > for SPARC architectures (6.2 was the last release), the UltraLinux.org site > hasn't been updated since mid-2003, etc. (There does appear to be current > Linux development for SPARC platforms, however.) Yes, but shortly after Red Hat dropped SPARC support, a distro called Aurora Linux[1] popped up, offering up SPARC rebuilds of Red Hat, and later, Fedora. Aurora has been successful enough in its promotion of SPARC that the Fedora Project is currently working on making SPARC a second-tier supported architecture[2], with the work of all of the people from Aurora. Sadly, Aurora 3.0 looks like it'll probably be the last release to support sparc32 to any sane degree, due to the lack of a sparc32 kernel maintainer, and lots and lots of bugs. It's been an uphill battle the last couple of years; I give mad props to Dave Miller (davem), Tom Callaway (spot), and Peter Jones (pjones) for taking on the bugs as long as they have. At least we'll still have sparcv9. Jima (Aurora/Fedora volunteer) 1. http://auroralinux.org/ 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArchTeam From netb@yuba.ne.jp Tue Nov 6 21:57:13 2007 From: netb@yuba.ne.jp (Henry Nelson) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 06:57:13 +0900 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] http://www.obsolyte.com/ In-Reply-To: References: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> Message-ID: <20071106215713.GA26076@yuba.ne.jp> On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 08:09:36AM -0800, charshman@divus.org wrote: > On Nov 6, 2007, at 12:00 AM, Ben Lewis wrote: > > Does anyone know what's become of http://www.obsolyte.com/ ? "Obsolyte - Obsolete and Elyte!", Last update: Aug 6 2007 Seems to be alive and kicking. > to have lost lots of steam. There just doesn't seem to be that much > interest, and so maybe the lack of activity on those sites reflects Lots of interest here, but I had to shut the things down because of unwarranted CO[2] emissions. Besides, I was never able to repair any of the power supplies for my five IPCs. > UltraLinux.org site hasn't been updated since mid-2003, etc. (There > does appear to be current Linux development for SPARC platforms, NetBSD supports SPARC, even sun4m, and perhaps even earlier though I have no way to test. -- henry n. From ks@ub.uni-mainz.de Wed Nov 7 07:47:01 2007 From: ks@ub.uni-mainz.de (Kurt Schreiner) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:47:01 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] http://www.obsolyte.com/ In-Reply-To: <20071106215713.GA26076@yuba.ne.jp> References: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> <20071106215713.GA26076@yuba.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20071107074701.GI27342@isb2501.ub.uni-mainz.de> On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 06:57:13AM +0900, Henry Nelson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 08:09:36AM -0800, charshman@divus.org wrote: > [...] > NetBSD supports SPARC, even sun4m, and perhaps even earlier though I > have no way to test. You can put NetBSD on ~every older Sparc-Suns (there's no support for SparcIII and up, yet), you can run it on sun3 and even on sun2i. Have a look at www.netbsd.org... Kurt From dbwoodw@earthlink.net Wed Nov 7 20:47:09 2007 From: dbwoodw@earthlink.net (Don Woodward) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:47:09 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] http://www.obsolyte.com/ In-Reply-To: References: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> Message-ID: <008701c8217f$5e16e0e0$1a44a2a0$@net> charshman wrote ... Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:10 Subject: Re: [Suns-at-Home] http://www.obsolyte.com/ Used to frequent obsolyte.com, sunsunsun.net, sunhelp.org, and I think there was one, blackbox.net or something like that? (Predominantly NeXT oriented, as you might imagine.) If I had to guess -- I'd say most of these sites were busy places around the turn of the century; lots of dot-com dollars made impractical "ooh, cool" purchases commonplace, lots of people trying to get started with Solaris skills or whathaveyou (Linux was on an upswing, but hadn't yet eclipsed Solaris for lots of commodity entry- level UNIX server tasks), and the hardware wasn't *that* outdated yet; Solaris 8 was (circa 2000) on the horizon, but 2.6 and 7 were commonplace and would run quite well on something like a SPARCstation Classic. DEC Multias were still a "thing" in the late 90s, etc. Don Woodward replies ... Thanks for mentioning sunsunsun.net - this brings back memories - I was one of the co-owners along with my son and brother - we sold a lot of systems and parts until the dot.com dollars were eclipsed by the dot.bomb and we closed sunsunsun.net - I recently shutdown my only running Sun server at home (an Ultra 5 that was an email relay) - I plan to setup Solaris x86 under VMWare Server just to keep my Solaris skills current. Very best, Don Woodward No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.24/1115 - Release Date: 11/7/2007 09:21 From enigmaticmachine@yahoo.com Wed Nov 7 20:50:36 2007 From: enigmaticmachine@yahoo.com (aaron hayes) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 12:50:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] free ultra 420 to good home near San Francisco Message-ID: <754393.78881.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Howdy, I've got an ultra 420 server I simply don't have the space for. it's running solaris 10, 2x 10GB drives, 4x 450 MHZ cpu's, and 4 gigs Ram. it's rack mount, and loud as hell, and my girlfriend simply won't let me run it in our little 1 bedroom apartment. Seems a shame to have it and not be using it for something. Any takers? you'll have to come pick up in Oakland, Ca, I'm to busy to try and pack and ship this beast. Thanks, Aaron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From cdewick@lios.apana.org.au Sun Nov 11 01:38:04 2007 From: cdewick@lios.apana.org.au (Craig Dewick) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:38:04 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] http://www.obsolyte.com/ In-Reply-To: <20071106215713.GA26076@yuba.ne.jp> References: <20071104134303.GC26891@teletubbie.het.net.je> <472E9A0D.7010703@mchsi.com> <1250870D-9B6F-43F3-B143-A89890015ED1@belgacom.net> <20071106215713.GA26076@yuba.ne.jp> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, Henry Nelson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 08:09:36AM -0800, charshman@divus.org wrote: >> On Nov 6, 2007, at 12:00 AM, Ben Lewis wrote: >>> Does anyone know what's become of http://www.obsolyte.com/ ? > > "Obsolyte - Obsolete and Elyte!", Last update: Aug 6 2007 > Seems to be alive and kicking. > >> to have lost lots of steam. There just doesn't seem to be that much >> interest, and so maybe the lack of activity on those sites reflects > > Lots of interest here, but I had to shut the things down because of > unwarranted CO[2] emissions. > > Besides, I was never able to repair any of the power supplies for my > five IPCs. > >> UltraLinux.org site hasn't been updated since mid-2003, etc. (There >> does appear to be current Linux development for SPARC platforms, > > NetBSD supports SPARC, even sun4m, and perhaps even earlier though I > have no way to test. Yes it runs on sun-4c systems. There is also a Sun-3/3x port of NetBSD that still have fairly good current development I believe. Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From fabmirha@ns.isi.ulatina.ac.cr Mon Nov 19 03:52:09 2007 From: fabmirha@ns.isi.ulatina.ac.cr (Fabio A. Miranda) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:52:09 -0600 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Blade 1000 not booting up Message-ID: <47410869.4070107@ns.isi.ulatina.ac.cr> Hello, I have a Sun blade 1000 workstation, when I turn it on, the Sun logo light up, but after 3 seconds, suddenly, the machine is power off. What's the cause of this behavior ? is this a classic power supply failure ? Thanks for any advise, fabio. From aewing@gmail.com Tue Nov 20 11:45:36 2007 From: aewing@gmail.com (Ahmed Ewing) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:45:36 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Blade 1000 not booting up In-Reply-To: <47410869.4070107@ns.isi.ulatina.ac.cr> References: <47410869.4070107@ns.isi.ulatina.ac.cr> Message-ID: On Nov 18, 2007 10:52 PM, Fabio A. Miranda wrote: > Hello, > > I have a Sun blade 1000 workstation, when I turn it on, the Sun logo > light up, but after 3 seconds, suddenly, the machine is power off. > > What's the cause of this behavior ? is this a classic power supply failure ? Actually sounds more like the chassis interlock is disengaged. Make sure the side panel of the SB1000 is firmly seated in place before your next power-on attempt. Also, have you attempted to connect a console device (terminal, or another host running a terminal emulator like HyperTerm/PuTTY) to serial port A to read the output prior to the shutdown? Hope that helps, -A From paipai@tin.it Wed Nov 21 08:59:11 2007 From: paipai@tin.it (Paolo Di Francesco) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:59:11 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Blade 1000 not booting up In-Reply-To: <47410869.4070107@ns.isi.ulatina.ac.cr> References: <47410869.4070107@ns.isi.ulatina.ac.cr> Message-ID: <4743F35F.4070901@tin.it> Hi Fabio, I don't know if it's the same that happens to my blade sometimes, but if you "kick" the blade it should work again. Well at least it works for my Blade :) [but do it gently and at your own risk!] I know it does not sound very scientific. In my case the reason is somewhat related to the hard drives. My feeling is that they cannot "boot" (i.e. spin the plates) or something related to the initial power they need to spin up. If you really want to see if the problem is with the disks, simply unplug them and see if it boots. I identified the problem simply unplugging them. Let me know! :) Thank you > Hello, > > I have a Sun blade 1000 workstation, when I turn it on, the Sun logo > light up, but after 3 seconds, suddenly, the machine is power off. > > What's the cause of this behavior ? is this a classic power supply > failure ? > > Thanks for any advise, > > fabio. > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home > -- Ciao Ciao _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~