From raub@ufl.edu Mon May 7 13:45:08 2007 From: raub@ufl.edu (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 08:45:08 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 450MHz CPUs and U60 Message-ID: <463F1F54.9080402@ufl.edu> I have here 4 450MHz CPUs (501-5539) and a U60 which I believed I have patched to the latest OBP (?). It current has two 360MHz CPUs. I tried two of the 450s and the machine would then not boot. Anything I could be doing wrong? I may take the cpus to work to have them tested in a E450 just in case. From n2vip@verizon.net Mon May 7 15:38:47 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (n2vip@verizon.net) Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 09:38:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 450MHz CPUs and U60 Message-ID: <941383.363871178548728040.JavaMail.root@vms170.mailsrvcs.net> I suspect, but have not investigated, that you need not only the latest OBP (3.17 or greater), but also the proper jumpers set on the U60 MB. The 360 MHz CPUs operate at a different clock speed from the 450 MHz CPUs you want to use... Check out this Sun document: http://www.sun.com/products-n-solutions/hardware/docs/pdf/806-1055-11.pdf It is the 450 MHz UltraSPARC upgrade manual, and section 3.3 describes the jumper you need to move/change, based on the installed CPUs. HTH, Ken >From: Mauricio Tavares >Date: 2007/05/07 Mon AM 07:45:08 CDT >To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 450MHz CPUs and U60 > I have here 4 450MHz CPUs (501-5539) and a U60 which I believed I have >patched to the latest OBP (?). It current has two 360MHz CPUs. I tried >two of the 450s and the machine would then not boot. Anything I could be >doing wrong? I may take the cpus to work to have them tested in a E450 >just in case. >_______________________________________________ >Suns-at-Home mailing list >Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com >http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From cbajus@mts.net Mon May 7 15:55:53 2007 From: cbajus@mts.net (Cory Bajus) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:55:53 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 450MHz CPUs and U60 In-Reply-To: <463F1F54.9080402@ufl.edu> References: <463F1F54.9080402@ufl.edu> Message-ID: <20070507145553.GA60462@rigel.bajus.ca> On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:45:08AM -0400, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I have here 4 450MHz CPUs (501-5539) and a U60 which I believed I > have patched to the latest OBP (?). It current has two 360MHz CPUs. I > tried two of the 450s and the machine would then not boot. Anything I could > be doing wrong? I may take the cpus to work to have them tested in a E450 > just in case. According to this document: http://sunsolve.sun.com/data/806/806-1055/pdf/806-1055-12.pdf you need to change the setting of jumper J3001 when switching from 300 or 360 MHz modules to 450 MHz modules. I recently upgraded my U60 from 2x300 to 2x450 and noticed a nice speed increase. Cory. From raub@ufl.edu Tue May 8 01:46:27 2007 From: raub@ufl.edu (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 20:46:27 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] SunPCi and IDE Message-ID: <463FC863.7060807@ufl.edu> After many moons procrastinatting, I soldered a 40 pin connector on the sunpci card and then connected an IDE HD to it. When it boots up, it recognizes the HD, http://kudria.com/projects/computer/sun/images/SunPCI2pro_01.jpg http://kudria.com/projects/computer/sun/images/SunPCI2pro_02.jpg but still will try to boot from an image or will ask for one if it is not there (or I deleted its Sunpci.ini file). How to persuade the card to see the HD as the C: drive? Is that a hardware limitation or an issue with the bios.bin or cmos.bin files (off /opt/SUNWspci/bios) it supposedly load at boot? I might slap in XP in it, the usual way, and see if that OS will see the drive and format it. From blewis3@alcatel-lucent.com Tue May 8 10:43:19 2007 From: blewis3@alcatel-lucent.com (Lewis, Benjamin (Ben)) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:43:19 +0200 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] PS/2 Keyboards and Suns In-Reply-To: <787363.79032.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <787363.79032.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <94333A1BF0D2684081652E54E0DE9E98A31A29@DEEXC1U01.de.lucent.com> >If I unplug the sun keyboard lead and plug it back in, the Sun drops to the boot prompt, however if I type 'go' then the sun resumes and the keyboard works. I believe this is normal behavior. It's certainly happened to me in remote lab installs where other people in the lab kept unplugging keyboards. Have you tried "boot -r" to rebuild /dev with the PS/2 keyboard and USB adapter plugged in? I had to do this to get a USB external hard disk and a Lacie USB floppy drive working.=20 I've also got one of the Belkin adapters and would be interested to hear how you get on. I'm looking for an inexpensive way to share keyboard and mouse between my Ultra 5 and E4500. Best regards Ben Ben Lewis Alcatel-Lucent Professional Services OSS/BSS RSC Benelux 54 Alfons Gosset Laan, 1702 Brussels, Belgium +32 2 467 8737 blewis3@alcatel-lucent.com From raub@ufl.edu Tue May 8 13:20:34 2007 From: raub@ufl.edu (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 08:20:34 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 450MHz CPUs and U60 In-Reply-To: <20070507145553.GA60462@rigel.bajus.ca> References: <463F1F54.9080402@ufl.edu> <20070507145553.GA60462@rigel.bajus.ca> Message-ID: <46406B12.4000106@ufl.edu> Cory Bajus wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 08:45:08AM -0400, Mauricio Tavares wrote: >> I have here 4 450MHz CPUs (501-5539) and a U60 which I believed I >> have patched to the latest OBP (?). It current has two 360MHz CPUs. I >> tried two of the 450s and the machine would then not boot. Anything I could >> be doing wrong? I may take the cpus to work to have them tested in a E450 >> just in case. > > According to this document: > > http://sunsolve.sun.com/data/806/806-1055/pdf/806-1055-12.pdf > > you need to change the setting of jumper J3001 when switching from 300 > or 360 MHz modules to 450 MHz modules. > > I recently upgraded my U60 from 2x300 to 2x450 and noticed a nice speed > increase. > > Cory. > You (and Ken!) were right! I changed the jumper and when I booted it, it reported the two 450MHz CPUs: raub@nassau-15>prtconf -vp | grep banner-name banner-name: 'Sun Ultra 60 UPA/PCI (2 X UltraSPARC-II 450MHz)' banner-name: 'Sun Ultra 60 UPA/PCI' raub@nassau-16> Thanks for all the help! From pgt@myrealbox.com Wed May 9 13:29:59 2007 From: pgt@myrealbox.com (Phillip Tong) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 22:29:59 +1000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] PS/2 Keyboards and Suns In-Reply-To: <787363.79032.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <787363.79032.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4641BEC7.50807@gmail.com> silvercreekvalley wrote: > Any ideas. I'm using an older version of Solaris > incidently - version 2.5. http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/U5/U5.html The Ultra 5, according to this page, requires Solaris 2.5.1 hw11/97 as a minimum - maybe this is part of the problem since you're using Solaris 2.5? (Note that the same page says that if using Solaris 2.6, hw3/98 is required - and I can tell you now, if using the 400/440MHz CPU, a further supplement is required to just install the OS for 2.5.1/2.6). The unplugging and replugging of the keyboard (and getting the OBP "go" prompt) is indeed normal. FYI - so is booting most terminals attached to the console A port when the Sun system is outputting the console to port A - a Windows PC, SPARC 5 and a Wyse60 terminal have done this to me. (There is an OBP setting to stop it doing this but I forget which setting has to be changed). Regards, Phil. From raub@ufl.edu Thu May 10 02:28:47 2007 From: raub@ufl.edu (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 21:28:47 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] SunPCi and IDE In-Reply-To: References: <463FC863.7060807@ufl.edu> Message-ID: <4642754F.4070104@ufl.edu> On Wed, 9 May 2007, Andre van Eyssen wrote: > On Mon, 7 May 2007, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > >> but still will try to boot from an image or will ask for one if it is not there (or I deleted its Sunpci.ini file). How to persuade the card to see the HD as the C: drive? Is that a hardware limitation or an issue with the bios.bin or cmos.bin files (off /opt/SUNWspci/bios) it supposedly load at boot? > > Tried hitting del for setup? > > Otherwise you could deploy something like grub onto the virtual drive and use that to boot from the spindle. > Well, here is the problem AFAIK: raub@nassau-18>cat pc/SunPC.ini [Drives] A drive=/dev/rdiskette C drive=/export/home/raub/pc/DOS.diskimage CD=/vol/dev/aliases/cdrom0 [Disk32] Enabled=Yes [Display] VesaModes=Disabled raub@nassau-19> From its config file, sunpci seems to want to know where its C drive is hiding. As of now, it expects it to be an image in my account in the machine. If you just delete that line, it will complain and ask for a new C drive. So, the question is really how to make the sunpci either not check for where C drive is, letting the card bios take over, or boot from the ide disk. Of course, another option would be what you suggested: see if I can make the HD the D drive and then make the C drive big enough to run lilo/grub and go to the D drive. From Keywords: ; Thu May 10 17:41:04 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 02:41:04 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 450MHz CPUs and U60 In-Reply-To: <463F1F54.9080402@ufl.edu> References: <463F1F54.9080402@ufl.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 May 2007, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I have here 4 450MHz CPUs (501-5539) and a U60 which I believed I > have patched to the latest OBP (?). It current has two 360MHz CPUs. I tried > two of the 450s and the machine would then not boot. Anything I could be > doing wrong? I may take the cpus to work to have them tested in a E450 just > in case. Check the J3001 setting, but otherwise x1195's should work without a problem as it's a standard config for U60-based systems such as the T1125 and E420R. Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From ISUSI@sympatico.ca Thu May 10 23:27:15 2007 From: ISUSI@sympatico.ca (Integral) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:27:15 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Software for a 386i In-Reply-To: <20070312185340.39dd5045.sastevens@earthlink.net> References: <20070312185340.39dd5045.sastevens@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46439C43.4010307@sympatico.ca> If there's enough interest, i might set up a dedicated site containing the system and some applications sw -- maybe later this summer. Cheers. kK http://www.site.uottawa.ca/~kanneman Scott Stevens wrote: >Well, I took up a list member's offer and made the trip to bring home a Sun 386i machine. Now I need to locate system software to run on it. I have searched 'round the net and the 386i sites almost all appear to have gone offline. ftp://sun386i.mon.org/pub/sun386i looks like the site that I wish was still mirrored somewhere. My understanding is that this 386i will run SunOS 4.0.1 or 4.0.2. It looks, after a trawl all about on the net, as though nobody has ever ported any other OS to this orphaned odd-bird box. I often use NetBSD to 'test out' classic UNIX hardware, that won't be possible on the 386i. > >Does anybody have a suggestion how I can find the required OS for this box? I don't have anything but the box, so will run it headless, like I run little lunchbox Sparcs. Any pointers to where I can find the pinout to adapt a serial console, or is the pinout 'standard' on the back? There seems to be little info at all online about this thing. (I understand some of the politics of it, but does everybody universally hate these things?) > >I am a somewhat collector of vintage UNIX hardware, particularly the odd stuff that used Intel processors. I also have an Altos 586 (8086 machine that runs an ancient System 3 derived version of Microsoft Xenix). > >I also have bunches and bunches of old Sparc boxes and am about to start posting giveaways here to thin out the herd. >_______________________________________________ >Suns-at-Home mailing list >Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com >http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home > > > From m_thompson@ids.net Sat May 12 14:41:46 2007 From: m_thompson@ids.net (M Thompson) Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 09:41:46 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Software for a 386i In-Reply-To: <20070511160504.B21A293CB@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070511160504.B21A293CB@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <200705121345.l4CDiuBO015490@mr02.conversent.net> >If there's enough interest, i might set up a dedicated site containing the system and some >applications sw -- maybe later this summer. >Cheers. kK > >http://www.site.uottawa.ca/~kanneman I have all of the diskette and tape images if you need them. Michael Thompson From nicholas.thompson1@mchsi.com Sun May 13 11:03:13 2007 From: nicholas.thompson1@mchsi.com (nick thompson) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 10:03:13 +0000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Software for a 386i In-Reply-To: <200705121345.l4CDiuBO015490@mr02.conversent.net> References: <20070511160504.B21A293CB@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <200705121345.l4CDiuBO015490@mr02.conversent.net> Message-ID: <4646E261.4010404@mchsi.com> M Thompson wrote: > >If there's enough interest, i might set up a dedicated site > containing the system and some >applications sw -- maybe later this > summer. > >Cheers. kK > > > >http://www.site.uottawa.ca/~kanneman > > I have all of the diskette and tape images if you need them. > > > > Michael Thompson Michael, How big are the images, all together? And, can the O/S be installed completely from diskettes To the list at large: How much does one of these systems go for nowadays? Are they "collectible" and therefore worth more than systems that are many times faster than them? I am just curious as I would like to try to acquire one. I am a unix geek, I collect weird boxes and make then run bsd/linux/solaris/hpux/irix/etc and this one I hadn't thought about but would be a nice addition to my unix dungeon. :) Thanks for any and all info.. (This was before my time, I'm 27...) Nick "All unix, all the time." http://npt.ath.cx > > > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home > From machine1@spamcop.net Sun May 13 20:23:53 2007 From: machine1@spamcop.net (machine1) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 15:23:53 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Seti at Home on Ultra 80 or E420R? Can it be done? References: <20070513160512.2E24693D4@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <000c01c79594$40485890$6700a8c0@MACHINE30> I have a Netra t 1405 (Same motherboard as Ultra 80 or E420R) with four 440MHz processors, 4 gigs RAM and a GFX8P frame buffer/graphics board. It's served quite nicely as a general purpose, rather imposing looking desktop machine with Solaris 10 and Star Office. I rescued it from a data center upgrade/downsize junkpile. I've been in the Seti @ Home project since near the beginning and have the BOINC Seti @ Home running on several Windows boxes. I've spent hours trying to get it to run on my Netra and I've come to the conclusion I'm not enough of a Unix guru to make it work without going back to school. Has anyone here managed to get S&H running on an Ultra 80 or E420R? I've tried the distributions listed on the Seti @ home website, and many links are dead, and the ones I can get to have to be edited and compiled. From gdk@mail.suomi.net Mon May 14 14:02:52 2007 From: gdk@mail.suomi.net (Jarto Nieminen) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:02:52 +0300 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Registered PC133 ECC dimm in a Sun Blade 100. Message-ID: <237B127A-F8A2-42E0-B569-390417791427@mail.suomi.net> I have a Sun Blade 100 shell with out memory or hard drives. I'm not sure of it's condition, so I'd like to tinker a bit and find out. The question I have is can you use registered ECC DIMMs in a Blade 100? I have a one such dimm, but no unregistered ECC dimms. Cheer's your fellow Sun hobbyist: Jarto Nieminen From baudet@benoitaudet.com Mon May 14 16:07:39 2007 From: baudet@benoitaudet.com (Benoit Audet) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:07:39 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Registered PC133 ECC dimm in a Sun Blade 100. In-Reply-To: <237B127A-F8A2-42E0-B569-390417791427@mail.suomi.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20070514110601.02642e68@svprweb01.expersys.ca> Hi Jarto, The memory you can use in the SB100 must me SDRAM PC133, with ECC (3.3v), so your RAM should work, if it meets these reqs... Ben Audet At 16:02 2007-05-14 +0300, Jarto Nieminen wrote: >I have a Sun Blade 100 shell with out memory or hard drives. I'm not >sure of it's condition, so I'd like to tinker a bit and find out. > >The question I have is can you use registered ECC DIMMs in a Blade >100? I have a one such dimm, but no unregistered ECC dimms. > >Cheer's your fellow Sun hobbyist: Jarto Nieminen >_______________________________________________ >Suns-at-Home mailing list >Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com >http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From rleir@leirtech.com Mon May 14 21:33:37 2007 From: rleir@leirtech.com (Rick Leir) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:33:37 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: collectible? In-Reply-To: <20070514160515.28A5B93D9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070514160515.28A5B93D9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <4648C7A1.6040700@leirtech.com> > How much does one of these systems go for nowadays? Are they > "collectible" and therefore worth more than systems that are many times > faster than them? I am just curious as I would like to try to acquire > one. I am a unix geek, I collect weird boxes and make then run > bsd/linux/solaris/hpux/irix/etc and this one I hadn't thought about but > would be a nice addition to my unix dungeon. :) > > This box was made around the time that Sun was switching from Motorola 68000 architecture to their own Sparc. There was a wide gulf between Sun and the Intel/Microsoft camp, and no love was lost. The 386i was a strange attempt to bridge the the gap. If you can find one, have fun! cheers -- Rick From m_thompson@ids.net Mon May 14 22:32:33 2007 From: m_thompson@ids.net (Michael Thompson) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:32:33 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Software for a 386i In-Reply-To: <20070514160504.0C08793CA@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070514160504.0C08793CA@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514173052.01d7d430@ids.net> > > I have all of the diskette and tape images if you need them. > > > > > > > > Michael Thompson >Michael, > How big are the images, all together? And, can the O/S be installed >completely from diskettes 77 MB for both tape and diskette images. Everything can be installed from LOTS of diskettes. From ericr@sourmilk.net Tue May 15 04:42:59 2007 From: ericr@sourmilk.net (Eric Rivas) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:42:59 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] SPARCworks compilers Message-ID: <46492C43.8030805@sourmilk.net> Hello, I am trying to revive a SPARCclassic with stuff similar to what it originally had. I have been able to track down and successfully install SunOS 4.1.4. Being the C compiler it comes with is lacking and I would like to get compilers for other languages, my next item to track down is the compiler collection. I believe it's called SPARCworks. So my question is: Does anyone have copy of SPARCworks that I could get a copy of? Thanks. -- Eric Rivas ericr@sourmilk.net From silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com Wed May 23 16:36:39 2007 From: silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com (silvercreekvalley) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 Message-ID: <801406.21164.qm@web56212.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Anyone with an ULTRA 80 for sale? Any spec including no CPUs/RAM/HD. I have a 420R which is a rack mount version, but its not that handy in an office environment without wheeling in a rack (which I'd rather not do). Anyone got one handy/spare? Cheers Ian. ____________________________________________________________________________________Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php From Keywords: ; Wed May 23 22:31:10 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 07:31:10 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 In-Reply-To: <801406.21164.qm@web56212.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <801406.21164.qm@web56212.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 May 2007, silvercreekvalley wrote: > Anyone with an ULTRA 80 for sale? Any spec including > no CPUs/RAM/HD. > > I have a 420R which is a rack mount version, but its > not that handy in an office environment without > wheeling > in a rack (which I'd rather not do). Look at an SunBlade 1000 or 2000 as well - they're in the same enclosure as an Ultra 80. The SB1000 and 2000 share the same system board but those two machines only support fibre-channel disks internally. They have a wide-SCSI port on the back though. Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From n2vip@verizon.net Thu May 24 19:11:21 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (n2vip@verizon.net) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:11:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 Message-ID: <4976106.8121711180030282381.JavaMail.root@vms125.mailsrvcs.net> >From: Craig Dewick >Date: 2007/05/23 Wed PM 04:31:10 CDT >To: silvercreekvalley >Cc: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >Subject: Re: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 >On Wed, 23 May 2007, silvercreekvalley wrote: > >> Anyone with an ULTRA 80 for sale? Any spec including >> no CPUs/RAM/HD. >> >> I have a 420R which is a rack mount version, but its >> not that handy in an office environment without >> wheeling >> in a rack (which I'd rather not do). > >Look at an SunBlade 1000 or 2000 as well - they're in the same enclosure >as an Ultra 80. The SB1000 and 2000 share the same system board but those >two machines only support fibre-channel disks internally. They have a >wide-SCSI port on the back though. There are great differences between the two systems (Ultra 80 vs. SB1000/SB2000): As I read the original post, I got the impression that the original poster was looking for a low-cost transition to a deskside chassis from the E420r, reusing CPUs/RAM/HD/IO cards from his existing E420r. A Loaded E420r (4x 450 CPU, 4 Gig RAM, 2x 18 Gig HDs) is quite affordable ($275 on eBay), while a similar dual CPU SB1000 is substantially more (2 to 3 times more, again, on eBay)... Ken From machine1@spamcop.net Thu May 24 21:23:26 2007 From: machine1@spamcop.net (machine1) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:23:26 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Netra t 1405 system for sale. Its an Ultra 80 or E420R in bulletproof box. References: <20070524160510.1B0D293D2@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <002b01c79e41$64be1470$6700a8c0@MACHINE30> This is a very complete fully loaded system with video, sound, accessories, external storage and extensive documentation included. All you need to add is a standard 15 pin PC type VGA monitor that will do 1024x768. This would be an excellent 'starter system' to reformat and learn from the ground up or a hook it up and use it system for a person wanting to learn Unix and Solaris on the UltraSPARCII platform. I assembled this system over a period of about ten months and tought my self enough Unix and server environment hardware and software to get a better job. I need to upgrade my home system so I have to sell this system off. NO I WON'T BREAK IT UP. All or nothing. First- to explain the differences I know of between the Netra t 1405 and Ultra 80 and Enterprise 420R: The Sun Netra t 1405 is the same motherboard as the Ultra 80 and E420R in a bulletproof box. Think "Mil-Spec." There are steel guards over the CD drive and (optional) tape drive slots. This is an impressive looking machine. There are redundant power supplies. The processors are 10MHz slower than the Ultra 80 or E420R to comply with the NEBS extreme reliability and durability testing process these telco central office reliable grade machines go through. http://www.ul.com/nebs/ for info on how well these machines must be constructed. Operationally the Netra t 1405 is an Ultra 80 or E420R. Solaris identifies this machine as an Ultra 80 when it boots. All parts in server other than sound card are genuine SUN labeled parts. All parts in server other than sound card are NEBS certified. What's included in basic machine: Sun Netra t 1405 with four 440MHz processors 4 Gigs RAM, CD(RO) 24X SCSI Drive, one 18 Gig and three 9 Gig 10kRPM SCSI hard drives. Raptor GFX8P video card, Sound Blaster sound card, four port network card (not installed,) keyboard and mouse, spare mouse. Solaris 10 updated completely as of last week. Still has shipping rails on front and back. Looks like it's never been in a rack. Comes with these accessories and options : Solaris 9 license, CD media and booklets, Solaris 10 media (CDs used to install current OS on machine) Sun ST D130 NEBS Storage Array with 2 18 Gig 10K drives, cable, terminator. SunPCI 400Mhz Windows/DOS co-processor card (not installed, software & docs included.). Nearly everything ever published by SUN that refers to the Netra t 1405 is included as PDF and HTM files on CD, including service manuals, OpenBoot manuals, Solaris manuals, reference manuals, users manuals, setup manuals, parts lists, wiring diagrams, engineering guides, and more. Local pickup in Fredericksburg VA available. Personal delivery within 100 miles $1 a mile, $30 minimum, weekends only. I don't deliver inside Baltimore or DC beltway. You unload. I have a bad back. Freight will be actual amount charged me by shipper to package and forward to you. Will arrange 'private' auction on eBay for payment and mutual protection or accept cash on delivery. Make me an offer. I've seen 2 CPU 'bare bones' Netra t 1405s listed for $800 and more on eBay. No I'm not listing this on eBay, either. From fabmirha@ns.isi.ulatina.ac.cr Mon May 28 04:05:25 2007 From: fabmirha@ns.isi.ulatina.ac.cr (Fabio Miranda Hamburger) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 21:05:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 In-Reply-To: <4976106.8121711180030282381.JavaMail.root@vms125.mailsrvcs.net> References: <4976106.8121711180030282381.JavaMail.root@vms125.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 24 May 2007, n2vip@verizon.net wrote: > Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:11:21 -0500 (CDT) > From: n2vip@verizon.net > To: silvercreekvalley , > Craig Dewick > Cc: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com > Subject: Re: Re: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 > >> From: Craig Dewick >> Date: 2007/05/23 Wed PM 04:31:10 CDT >> To: silvercreekvalley >> Cc: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >> Subject: Re: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 > >> On Wed, 23 May 2007, silvercreekvalley wrote: >> >>> Anyone with an ULTRA 80 for sale? Any spec including >>> no CPUs/RAM/HD. >>> >>> I have a 420R which is a rack mount version, but its >>> not that handy in an office environment without >>> wheeling >>> in a rack (which I'd rather not do). >> >> Look at an SunBlade 1000 or 2000 as well - they're in the same enclosure >> as an Ultra 80. The SB1000 and 2000 share the same system board but those >> two machines only support fibre-channel disks internally. They have a >> wide-SCSI port on the back though. > > There are great differences between the two systems (Ultra 80 vs. SB1000/SB2000): > > As I read the original post, I got the impression that the original poster was looking for a low-cost transition to a deskside chassis from the E420r, reusing CPUs/RAM/HD/IO cards from his existing E420r. A Loaded E420r (4x 450 CPU, 4 Gig RAM, 2x 18 Gig HDs) is quite affordable ($275 on eBay), while a similar dual CPU SB1000 is substantially more (2 to 3 times more, again, on eBay)... I own a sun blade 1000 and keep it turned off because it consume too much electricity. fabio. From silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com Thu May 24 22:21:55 2007 From: silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com (silvercreekvalley) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 Message-ID: <657147.99450.qm@web56209.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > >> > >>> Anyone with an ULTRA 80 for sale? Any spec including > >>> no CPUs/RAM/HD. > >>> > > As I read the original post, I got the impression that the original > > poster was looking for a low-cost transition to a deskside chassis > > from the E420r, reusing CPUs/RAM/HD/IO cards from his > existing E420r. > > A Loaded E420r (4x 450 CPU, 4 Gig RAM, 2x 18 Gig HDs) is quite > > affordable ($275 on eBay), while a similar dual CPU SB1000 is > > substantially more (2 to 3 times more, again, on eBay)... That's right, the ULTRA 80 also takes 4 CPU's whereas the Blades max out at 2 as far as I know althogh the ULTRA is limited to 450MHz I think. There are lots of rack mount Suns which are tricky to get in convenient cases, like the enterprise servers E4000, E4500, etc which are interesting machines, but awkward unless you have space for racks. I rarely see the pedestal version (3500). Cheers Ian. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From n2vip@verizon.net Thu May 24 23:32:50 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (n2vip@verizon.net) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 17:32:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 Message-ID: <12166836.927811180045970213.JavaMail.root@vms068.mailsrvcs.net> >From: Fabio Miranda Hamburger >Date: 2007/05/27 Sun PM 10:05:25 CDT >To: n2vip@verizon.net >Cc: silvercreekvalley , Craig Dewick , suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >Subject: Re: Re: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 >I own a sun blade 1000 and keep it turned off because it consume too much >electricity. The SB1000 and E420r both consume similar electricity and throw off similar heat... Ken From jacob.brodersen.ctr@langley.af.mil Fri May 25 14:02:43 2007 From: jacob.brodersen.ctr@langley.af.mil (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Br=F6dersen_Jacob_K_Ctr_ACC/A8II?=) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 09:02:43 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 In-Reply-To: <657147.99450.qm@web56209.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <657147.99450.qm@web56209.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200705251302.l4PD2gEc010740@lfi-cits-04.langley.af.mil> I have an Ultra 80 with quad 450 MHz processors. It makes for a very = nice desktop machine. It does throw off some heat, but stays on 24/7. Jake=20 =20 From awouk@nilenet.com Fri May 25 19:30:19 2007 From: awouk@nilenet.com (Arthur Wouk) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 12:30:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] free: mbus cpus for sparcstation 10/20 Message-ID: <20070525183019.AC62A1CC7F@mail.nilenet.com> part of my clearing operation. these are all left-overs from my sparcstation 10 era. quantity sun # description 3 501-2352 SM51 50MHZ 1MBcache 2 501-3001 SM71 75MGZ (1MB cache as i recall) 1 501-2607 SM51 50MHZ 1MBcache 1 501-2219 SM40 40MHZ these were all working when i put them away. ;ocated om 80301. From awouk@nilenet.com Fri May 25 19:38:14 2007 From: awouk@nilenet.com (Arthur Wouk) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 12:38:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] free: old frame buffers: cg.... Message-ID: <20070525183814.BB1DE1CC59@mail.nilenet.com> left over from the sparcstation era. quantity sun# description 3 501=1672 CG6 FX-07 1 501-1718 CG3 all working when put away. located in 80301. From raub@ufl.edu Sat May 26 13:35:04 2007 From: raub@ufl.edu (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:35:04 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Forcing USB/firewire drive to always mount in the same location Message-ID: <46582978.5020208@ufl.edu> I have a USB/FW card in my U60 and plan on connecting to it a large HD that I will NFS export some directories from. Now, how can I persuade it to always go to the same mount point next time I reboot it or whatever? From andre@purplecow.org Sat May 26 16:53:48 2007 From: andre@purplecow.org (Andre van Eyssen) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 01:53:48 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 In-Reply-To: <200705251302.l4PD2gEc010740@lfi-cits-04.langley.af.mil> References: <657147.99450.qm@web56209.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <200705251302.l4PD2gEc010740@lfi-cits-04.langley.af.mil> Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-1903590565-1180194828=:26658 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Fri, 25 May 2007, Br=F6dersen Jacob K Ctr ACC/A8II wrote: > I have an Ultra 80 with quad 450 MHz processors. It makes for a very=20 > nice desktop machine. It does throw off some heat, but stays on 24/7. Absolutely. I upgraded from my U80 to a Blade-1000. Then again, I run an=20 880 at home. --=20 Andre van Eyssen. "the only value you can add to a banana is a bruise" -- McNealy. ---559023410-1903590565-1180194828=:26658-- From Keywords: ; Sun May 27 08:31:11 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 17:31:11 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ULTRA 80 In-Reply-To: <200705251302.l4PD2gEc010740@lfi-cits-04.langley.af.mil> References: <657147.99450.qm@web56209.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <200705251302.l4PD2gEc010740@lfi-cits-04.langley.af.mil> Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-1804928587-1180251071=:2408 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 25 May 2007, Brödersen Jacob K Ctr ACC/A8II wrote: > I have an Ultra 80 with quad 450 MHz processors. It makes for a very > nice desktop machine. It does throw off some heat, but stays on 24/7. My SB1000 is a 24/7 system. Has a single 900 Mhz processor at present and I like it because the fans are quiet. Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". ---559023410-1804928587-1180251071=:2408-- From raub@ufl.edu Mon May 28 14:40:37 2007 From: raub@ufl.edu (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 09:40:37 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] U60 does not like a 300GB USB HD Message-ID: <465ADBD5.1040201@ufl.edu> I have this WD3200 (300GB?) ATA HD in a USB/FW box which I connected to my U60. Now, when I try to format/partition it, it seems that Sol10 is having a hard time figuring it out, so I first took it to a Linux box so to get its specs and then brought it back to the U60 and feed that info. As you can see below, it seemed to have taken it: # format -e Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c0t0d0 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/sd@0,0 1. c0t1d0 /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/sd@1,0 2. c2t0d0 /pci@1f,4000/usb@2,3/hub@6/storage@4/disk@0,0 3. c4t0d0 /pci@1f,4000/usb@2,3/storage@5/disk@0,0 Specify disk (enter its number): 3 AVAILABLE DRIVE TYPES: 0. Auto configure 1. Quantum ProDrive 80S 2. Quantum ProDrive 105S 3. CDC Wren IV 94171-344 4. SUN0104 5. SUN0207 6. SUN0327 7. SUN0340 8. SUN0424 9. SUN0535 10. SUN0669 11. SUN1.0G 12. SUN1.05 13. SUN1.3G 14. SUN2.1G 15. SUN2.9G 16. Zip 100 17. Zip 250 18. Peerless 10GB 19. IBM-IC35L036UCDY10-0-S23C 20. QUANTUM-ATLAS10K3_73_SCA-020W 21. other Specify disk type (enter its number): 21 Enter number of data cylinders: 38913 Enter number of alternate cylinders[2]: Enter number of physical cylinders[38915]: Enter number of heads: 255 Enter physical number of heads[default]: Enter number of data sectors/track: 63 Enter number of physical sectors/track[default]: Enter rpm of drive[3600]: 7200 Enter format time[default]: Enter cylinder skew[default]: Enter track skew[default]: Enter tracks per zone[default]: Enter alternate tracks[default]: Enter alternate sectors[default]: Enter cache control[default]: Enter prefetch threshold[default]: Enter minimum prefetch[default]: Enter maximum prefetch[default]: Enter disk type name (remember quotes): "Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200JB 320GB" selecting c4t0d0 [disk formatted] FORMAT MENU: disk - select a disk type - select (define) a disk type partition - select (define) a partition table current - describe the current disk format - format and analyze the disk repair - repair a defective sector label - write label to the disk analyze - surface analysis defect - defect list management backup - search for backup labels verify - read and display labels save - save new disk/partition definitions inquiry - show vendor, product and revision scsi - independent SCSI mode selects cache - enable, disable or query SCSI disk cache volname - set 8-character volume name ! - execute , then return quit format> s `s' is ambiguous. format> sa Saving new disk and partition definitions Enter file name["./format.dat"]: ~raub/format.dat Cannot open `~raub/format.dat' - No such file or directory format> format> sa Saving new disk and partition definitions Enter file name["./format.dat"]: format> p PARTITION MENU: 0 - change `0' partition 1 - change `1' partition 2 - change `2' partition 3 - change `3' partition 4 - change `4' partition 5 - change `5' partition 6 - change `6' partition 7 - change `7' partition select - select a predefined table modify - modify a predefined partition table name - name the current table print - display the current table label - write partition map and label to the disk ! - execute , then return quit partition> p Current partition table (Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200JB 3): Total disk cylinders available: 38913 + 2 (reserved cylinders) Part Tag Flag Cylinders Size Blocks 0 root wm 0 - 16 133.35MB (17/0/0) 273105 1 swap wu 17 - 33 133.35MB (17/0/0) 273105 2 backup wu 0 - 38912 298.09GB (38913/0/0) 625137345 3 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 4 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 5 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 6 usr wm 34 - 38912 297.83GB (38879/0/0) 624591135 7 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 partition> I do some massaging and create just one partition for me to play with: partition> 0 Part Tag Flag Cylinders Size Blocks 0 root wm 0 - 16 133.35MB (17/0/0) 273105 Enter partition id tag[root]: ? Expecting one of the following: (abbreviations ok): unassigned boot root swap usr backup stand var home alternates reserved Enter partition id tag[root]: un Enter partition permission flags[wm]: Enter new starting cyl[0]: Enter partition size[273105b, 17c, 16e, 133.35mb, 0.13gb]: 290GB Please specify units in either b(blocks), c(cylinders), e(end cylinder), m(megabytes) or g(gigabytes) Enter partition size[273105b, 17c, 16e, 133.35mb, 0.13gb]: 290g partition> p Current partition table (unnamed): Total disk cylinders available: 38913 + 2 (reserved cylinders) Part Tag Flag Cylinders Size Blocks 0 unassigned wm 0 - 37857 290.01GB (37858/0/0) 608188770 1 unassigned wu 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 2 backup wu 0 - 38912 298.09GB (38913/0/0) 625137345 3 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 4 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 5 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 6 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 7 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 partition> 0 Part Tag Flag Cylinders Size Blocks 0 unassigned wm 0 - 37857 290.01GB (37858/0/0) 608188770 Enter partition id tag[unassigned]: Enter partition permission flags[wm]: Enter new starting cyl[0]: Enter partition size[608188770b, 37858c, 37857e, 296967.19mb, 290.01gb]: partition> ? [...] But, when I try to format it, it barks at me: format> fo Ready to format. Formatting cannot be interrupted. Continue? y Beginning format. The current time is Sun May 27 21:59:10 2007 Formatting... Format failed Anything I may be doing wrong? From paul@anastrophe.com Mon May 28 23:27:59 2007 From: paul@anastrophe.com (Paul Theodoropoulos) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 15:27:59 -0700 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] U60 does not like a 300GB USB HD In-Reply-To: <465ADBD5.1040201@ufl.edu> References: <465ADBD5.1040201@ufl.edu> Message-ID: <20070528222826.4D6D693C2@tigger.net-kitchen.com> At 06:40 AM 5/28/2007, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I have this WD3200 (300GB?) ATA HD in a USB/FW box which I > connected to my U60. Now, when I try to format/partition it, it > seems that Sol10 is having a hard time figuring it out, so I first > took it to a Linux box so to get its specs and then brought it back > to the U60 and feed that info. As you can see below, it seemed to > have taken it: > >But, when I try to format it, it barks at me: > >format> fo >Ready to format. Formatting cannot be interrupted. >Continue? y >Beginning format. The current time is Sun May 27 21:59:10 2007 > >Formatting... >Format failed > >Anything I may be doing wrong? disclaimer: i've never used an ATA drive on a sun box (only scsi). that said - are you sure you need to format it? have you tried just newfs'ing it? i've never had to use the actual format function on scsi drives - but again, that's all i've ever used, so who knows. alternatively, perhaps ZFS could manage the details without any special actions at all, a la zpool create {mypool} c4t0d0 Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com From Keywords: ; Mon May 28 23:38:02 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:38:02 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] U60 does not like a 300GB USB HD In-Reply-To: <465ADBD5.1040201@ufl.edu> References: <465ADBD5.1040201@ufl.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 May 2007, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I have this WD3200 (300GB?) ATA HD in a USB/FW box which I connected > to my U60. Now, when I try to format/partition it, it seems that Sol10 is > having a hard time figuring it out, so I first took it to a Linux box so to > get its specs and then brought it back to the U60 and feed that info. As you > can see below, it seemed to have taken it: How are you connecting it to the U60? Presumably you're using a PCI USB or firewire card since U60's have no USB or firewire support on the system board, so the next question is whether the device driver for drives connected via USB can handle disk capacities that high. > # format -e > Searching for disks...done > > > AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: > 0. c0t0d0 > /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/sd@0,0 > 1. c0t1d0 > /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/sd@1,0 > 2. c2t0d0 > /pci@1f,4000/usb@2,3/hub@6/storage@4/disk@0,0 > 3. c4t0d0 > /pci@1f,4000/usb@2,3/storage@5/disk@0,0 > Specify disk (enter its number): 3 Ok looks like you're using USB. What device driver is used to communicate with the drive? Is is a generic Sun device driver, or something from elsewhere? I don't quite understand how an ATA drive can communicate over a USB port but I'm sure it happens with PC's all the time when people use 'black-box' external drive solutions for backup devices, etc. Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From ethan.dicks@gmail.com Tue May 29 01:08:19 2007 From: ethan.dicks@gmail.com (Ethan Dicks) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:08:19 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] U60 does not like a 300GB USB HD In-Reply-To: <465ADBD5.1040201@ufl.edu> References: <465ADBD5.1040201@ufl.edu> Message-ID: On 5/28/07, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I have this WD3200 (300GB?) ATA HD in a USB/FW box which I connected to > my U60. Now, when I try to format/partition it, it seems that Sol10 is > having a hard time figuring it out, so I first took it to a Linux box so > to get its specs and then brought it back to the U60 and feed that info. > As you can see below, it seemed to have taken it: . . . > Enter partition size[273105b, 17c, 16e, 133.35mb, 0.13gb]: 290GB > Please specify units in either b(blocks), c(cylinders), e(end cylinder), > m(megabytes) or g(gigabytes) > Enter partition size[273105b, 17c, 16e, 133.35mb, 0.13gb]: 290g > But, when I try to format it, it barks at me: > > format> fo > Ready to format. Formatting cannot be interrupted. > Continue? y > Beginning format. The current time is Sun May 27 21:59:10 2007 > > Formatting... > Format failed How long does it take between those last two statements? > Anything I may be doing wrong? I remember back in the day, when gigabyte drives started coming out, that newfs and the formatter and such had problems because there were built-in timeouts for the operation that would trigger because there were so many blocks to read/write that the code thought there _must_ be something hanging. The solution was to patch the timeout length to allow a format to take hours. The formatting/filesystem-building code itself didn't mind large drives/large partitions, but the watchdog section didn't want to wait that long. Perhaps USB is slow enough compared to a UW-SCSI attachment that these timeouts are once again a factor? -ethan From lamune@doki-doki.net Wed May 30 05:10:16 2007 From: lamune@doki-doki.net (Mike Pepe) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:10:16 -0700 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] U60 does not like a 300GB USB HD In-Reply-To: <465ADBD5.1040201@ufl.edu> References: <465ADBD5.1040201@ufl.edu> Message-ID: <465CF928.5090701@doki-doki.net> Mauricio Tavares wrote: > I have this WD3200 (300GB?) ATA HD in a USB/FW box which I connected > to my U60. Now, when I try to format/partition it, it seems that Sol10 > is having a hard time figuring it out, so I first took it to a Linux box > so to get its specs and then brought it back to the U60 and feed that > info. As you can see below, it seemed to have taken it: > > # format -e > Searching for disks...done > > > AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: > 0. c0t0d0 > /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/sd@0,0 > 1. c0t1d0 579> > /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/sd@1,0 > 2. c2t0d0 > /pci@1f,4000/usb@2,3/hub@6/storage@4/disk@0,0 > 3. c4t0d0 > /pci@1f,4000/usb@2,3/storage@5/disk@0,0 > Specify disk (enter its number): 3 > > > > AVAILABLE DRIVE TYPES: > 0. Auto configure > 1. Quantum ProDrive 80S > 2. Quantum ProDrive 105S > 3. CDC Wren IV 94171-344 > 4. SUN0104 > 5. SUN0207 > 6. SUN0327 > 7. SUN0340 > 8. SUN0424 > 9. SUN0535 > 10. SUN0669 > 11. SUN1.0G > 12. SUN1.05 > 13. SUN1.3G > 14. SUN2.1G > 15. SUN2.9G > 16. Zip 100 > 17. Zip 250 > 18. Peerless 10GB > 19. IBM-IC35L036UCDY10-0-S23C > 20. QUANTUM-ATLAS10K3_73_SCA-020W > 21. other > Specify disk type (enter its number): 21 > Enter number of data cylinders: 38913 > Enter number of alternate cylinders[2]: > Enter number of physical cylinders[38915]: > Enter number of heads: 255 > Enter physical number of heads[default]: > Enter number of data sectors/track: 63 > Enter number of physical sectors/track[default]: > Enter rpm of drive[3600]: 7200 > Enter format time[default]: > Enter cylinder skew[default]: > Enter track skew[default]: > Enter tracks per zone[default]: > Enter alternate tracks[default]: > Enter alternate sectors[default]: > Enter cache control[default]: > Enter prefetch threshold[default]: > Enter minimum prefetch[default]: > Enter maximum prefetch[default]: > Enter disk type name (remember quotes): "Western Digital Caviar SE > WD3200JB 320GB" > selecting c4t0d0 > [disk formatted] > > > FORMAT MENU: > disk - select a disk > type - select (define) a disk type > partition - select (define) a partition table > current - describe the current disk > format - format and analyze the disk > repair - repair a defective sector > label - write label to the disk > analyze - surface analysis > defect - defect list management > backup - search for backup labels > verify - read and display labels > save - save new disk/partition definitions > inquiry - show vendor, product and revision > scsi - independent SCSI mode selects > cache - enable, disable or query SCSI disk cache > volname - set 8-character volume name > ! - execute , then return > quit > format> s > `s' is ambiguous. > format> sa > Saving new disk and partition definitions > Enter file name["./format.dat"]: ~raub/format.dat > Cannot open `~raub/format.dat' - No such file or directory > format> > format> sa > Saving new disk and partition definitions > Enter file name["./format.dat"]: > format> p > > > PARTITION MENU: > 0 - change `0' partition > 1 - change `1' partition > 2 - change `2' partition > 3 - change `3' partition > 4 - change `4' partition > 5 - change `5' partition > 6 - change `6' partition > 7 - change `7' partition > select - select a predefined table > modify - modify a predefined partition table > name - name the current table > print - display the current table > label - write partition map and label to the disk > ! - execute , then return > quit > partition> p > Current partition table (Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200JB 3): > Total disk cylinders available: 38913 + 2 (reserved cylinders) > > Part Tag Flag Cylinders Size Blocks > 0 root wm 0 - 16 133.35MB (17/0/0) 273105 > 1 swap wu 17 - 33 133.35MB (17/0/0) 273105 > 2 backup wu 0 - 38912 298.09GB (38913/0/0) 625137345 > 3 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > 4 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > 5 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > 6 usr wm 34 - 38912 297.83GB (38879/0/0) 624591135 > 7 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > > partition> > > I do some massaging and create just one partition for me to play with: > > partition> 0 > Part Tag Flag Cylinders Size Blocks > 0 root wm 0 - 16 133.35MB (17/0/0) 273105 > > Enter partition id tag[root]: ? > Expecting one of the following: (abbreviations ok): > unassigned boot root swap > usr backup stand var > home alternates reserved > > Enter partition id tag[root]: un > Enter partition permission flags[wm]: > Enter new starting cyl[0]: > Enter partition size[273105b, 17c, 16e, 133.35mb, 0.13gb]: 290GB > Please specify units in either b(blocks), c(cylinders), e(end cylinder), > m(megabytes) or g(gigabytes) > Enter partition size[273105b, 17c, 16e, 133.35mb, 0.13gb]: 290g > partition> p > Current partition table (unnamed): > Total disk cylinders available: 38913 + 2 (reserved cylinders) > > Part Tag Flag Cylinders Size Blocks > 0 unassigned wm 0 - 37857 290.01GB (37858/0/0) 608188770 > 1 unassigned wu 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > 2 backup wu 0 - 38912 298.09GB (38913/0/0) 625137345 > 3 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > 4 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > 5 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > 6 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > 7 unassigned wm 0 0 (0/0/0) 0 > > partition> 0 > Part Tag Flag Cylinders Size Blocks > 0 unassigned wm 0 - 37857 290.01GB (37858/0/0) 608188770 > > Enter partition id tag[unassigned]: > Enter partition permission flags[wm]: > Enter new starting cyl[0]: > Enter partition size[608188770b, 37858c, 37857e, 296967.19mb, 290.01gb]: > partition> ? > [...] > > But, when I try to format it, it barks at me: > > format> fo > Ready to format. Formatting cannot be interrupted. > Continue? y > Beginning format. The current time is Sun May 27 21:59:10 2007 > > Formatting... > Format failed > > > Anything I may be doing wrong? > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home I doubt the USB-IDE bridge in the USB box implements that particular SCSI command to perform a media format. Try making the filesystem(s) after labeling the disk. It'll probably work fine. The format isn't necessary. -Mike From silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com Wed May 30 09:12:25 2007 From: silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com (silvercreekvalley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 01:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Side Panel kit for E4000? Message-ID: <430067.60582.qm@web56201.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi, Long shot this - but does anyone have a side panel kit for an E4000 (Sun Enterprise E4000) server? Or any kind of smallish case that would work? Cheers Ian. ____________________________________________________________________________________You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html