From billj@ieee.org Thu Mar 1 03:12:44 2007 From: billj@ieee.org (Bill Janssen) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:12:44 -0800 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card In-Reply-To: <1172614567.8676.6.camel@apophis> References: <20070227170528.BBFFA93E2@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1172614567.8676.6.camel@apophis> Message-ID: <45E644AC.50604@ieee.org> I have this SUN PCI board that I would like to add to my Ultra 10 I have looked at the Sun web site and find that they have multiple driver software packages and I don't know which one to use. I am running Solaris 10. The board is marked Penguin V1.1.2, 400MHz The Bar Code is 3750095003682 There is one chip marked SunPCi MSKB 18 1998 So, which software package do I down load. Thanks Bill K7NOM From hessel.keegstra@chello.nl Thu Mar 1 15:24:17 2007 From: hessel.keegstra@chello.nl (hessel.keegstra@chello.nl) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:24:17 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card Message-ID: <27215297.1172762657583.JavaMail.root@amsfep16> Hi, The card is officially not supported under Solaris 10 but does work. You need a SunPCI 1.x driver package, think version 1.3 is the latest one available. Best regards, Hessel ---- Bill Janssen wrote: > I have this SUN PCI board that I would like to add to my Ultra 10 > > I have looked at the Sun web site and find that they have multiple > driver software > packages and I don't know which one to use. > > I am running Solaris 10. > The board is marked Penguin V1.1.2, 400MHz > The Bar Code is 3750095003682 > There is one chip marked SunPCi > MSKB 18 > 1998 > > So, which software package do I down load. > > Thanks > Bill K7NOM > > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From angusf@mac.com Thu Mar 1 15:36:28 2007 From: angusf@mac.com (Angus Fox) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:36:28 +0000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card In-Reply-To: <45E644AC.50604@ieee.org> References: <20070227170528.BBFFA93E2@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1172614567.8676.6.camel@apophis> <45E644AC.50604@ieee.org> Message-ID: <7C31CAB7-4896-486C-8D9A-23BFECF9F43F@mac.com> On 1 Mar 2007, at 03:12, Bill Janssen wrote: > I have this SUN PCI board that I would like to add to my Ultra 10 > > I have looked at the Sun web site and find that they have multiple > driver software > packages and I don't know which one to use. > > I am running Solaris 10. > The board is marked Penguin V1.1.2, 400MHz > The Bar Code is 3750095003682 > There is one chip marked SunPCi > MSKB 18 > 1998 Its an early board, so you need the early software - https://www.sun.com/desktop/products/sunpci/downloads.html Scroll down to SunPCi 1.3 Drivers and Documentation All downloadable from there. Angus From billj@ieee.org Thu Mar 1 16:16:25 2007 From: billj@ieee.org (Bill Janssen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:16:25 -0800 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card In-Reply-To: <7C31CAB7-4896-486C-8D9A-23BFECF9F43F@mac.com> References: <20070227170528.BBFFA93E2@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1172614567.8676.6.camel@apophis> <45E644AC.50604@ieee.org> <7C31CAB7-4896-486C-8D9A-23BFECF9F43F@mac.com> Message-ID: <45E6FC59.8080104@ieee.org> Angus Fox wrote: > > On 1 Mar 2007, at 03:12, Bill Janssen wrote: > >> I have this SUN PCI board that I would like to add to my Ultra 10 >> >> I have looked at the Sun web site and find that they have multiple >> driver software >> packages and I don't know which one to use. >> >> I am running Solaris 10. >> The board is marked Penguin V1.1.2, 400MHz >> The Bar Code is 3750095003682 >> There is one chip marked SunPCi >> MSKB 18 >> 1998 > > Its an early board, so you need the early software - > > https://www.sun.com/desktop/products/sunpci/downloads.html > > Scroll down to SunPCi 1.3 Drivers and Documentation > > All downloadable from there. > > Angus Thanks to the two that gave the same info. I will try the software and see if my board works. Bill K7NOM From n2vip@verizon.net Thu Mar 1 19:20:30 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (n2vip@verizon.net) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:20:30 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card Message-ID: <12141072.2661681172776831446.JavaMail.root@vms063.mailsrvcs.net> >From: Bill Janssen >Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 09:12:44 CST >To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card >I have this SUN PCI board that I would like to add to my Ultra 10 > >I have looked at the Sun web site and find that they have multiple >driver software >packages and I don't know which one to use. > >I am running Solaris 10. >The board is marked Penguin V1.1.2, 400MHz >The Bar Code is 3750095003682 >There is one chip marked SunPCi >MSKB 18 > 1998 > >So, which software package do I down load. Bill, You want Version 1., it is located here: http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/sunpci/downloads.html There are dependencies regarding the version of Solaris the host (in this case, your Ultra 10) can run (only Solaris 2.5.1, 2.6, 2.7, or 8)... Hope this helps, Ken From angusf@mac.com Thu Mar 1 21:14:50 2007 From: angusf@mac.com (Angus Fox) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:14:50 +0000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card In-Reply-To: <12141072.2661681172776831446.JavaMail.root@vms063.mailsrvcs.net> References: <12141072.2661681172776831446.JavaMail.root@vms063.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <45E7424A.7080705@mac.com> n2vip@verizon.net wrote: >> From: Bill Janssen >> Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 09:12:44 CST >> To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >> Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card > >> I have this SUN PCI board that I would like to add to my Ultra 10 >> >> I have looked at the Sun web site and find that they have multiple >> driver software >> packages and I don't know which one to use. >> >> I am running Solaris 10. >> The board is marked Penguin V1.1.2, 400MHz >> The Bar Code is 3750095003682 >> There is one chip marked SunPCi >> MSKB 18 >> 1998 >> >> So, which software package do I down load. > > Bill, > > You want Version 1., it is located here: http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/sunpci/downloads.html > > There are dependencies regarding the version of Solaris the host (in this case, your Ultra 10) can run (only Solaris 2.5.1, 2.6, 2.7, or 8)... > > Hope this helps, > Pretty sure my 400 ran on Sol 9, and right now I have the 700MHz board running XP Pro / Office 2003 on Sol 10 on a U10/440 (turn off graphics acceleration in XP Pro to make Office display correctly) Angus From n2vip@verizon.net Thu Mar 1 17:29:46 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (Ken Hansen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:29:46 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card In-Reply-To: <45E7424A.7080705@mac.com> References: <12141072.2661681172776831446.JavaMail.root@vms063.mailsrvcs.net> <45E7424A.7080705@mac.com> Message-ID: On Mar 1, 2007, at 4:14 PM, Angus Fox wrote: > n2vip@verizon.net wrote: >>> From: Bill Janssen >>> Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 09:12:44 CST >>> To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >>> Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card >>> I have this SUN PCI board that I would like to add to my Ultra 10 >>> >>> I have looked at the Sun web site and find that they have >>> multiple driver software >>> packages and I don't know which one to use. >>> >>> I am running Solaris 10. >>> The board is marked Penguin V1.1.2, 400MHz >>> The Bar Code is 3750095003682 >>> There is one chip marked SunPCi >>> MSKB 18 >>> 1998 >>> >>> So, which software package do I down load. >> Bill, >> You want Version 1., it is located here: http://www.sun.com/ >> desktop/products/sunpci/downloads.html >> There are dependencies regarding the version of Solaris the host >> (in this case, your Ultra 10) can run (only Solaris 2.5.1, 2.6, >> 2.7, or 8)... >> Hope this helps, > > Pretty sure my 400 ran on Sol 9, and right now I have the 700MHz > board running XP Pro / Office 2003 on Sol 10 on a U10/440 (turn off > graphics acceleration in XP Pro to make Office display correctly) If you install, then upgrade many combinations are possible. And the 700 MHz card uses a diferent software version (there are three distinct PCI SunPCi cards, each with different support for Solaris and client operating systems) Ken From joew@diveaz.com Sat Mar 3 22:11:52 2007 From: joew@diveaz.com (Joe West) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:11:52 -0700 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card In-Reply-To: <45E7424A.7080705@mac.com> Message-ID: I have it running on an Ultra 80 under solaris 9 (600Mhz Celeron processor) with no problems. I'm running Windows 2000 professional Joe On 3/1/07 2:14 PM, "Angus Fox" wrote: > n2vip@verizon.net wrote: >>> From: Bill Janssen >>> Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 09:12:44 CST >>> To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >>> Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card >> >>> I have this SUN PCI board that I would like to add to my Ultra 10 >>> >>> I have looked at the Sun web site and find that they have multiple >>> driver software >>> packages and I don't know which one to use. >>> >>> I am running Solaris 10. >>> The board is marked Penguin V1.1.2, 400MHz >>> The Bar Code is 3750095003682 >>> There is one chip marked SunPCi >>> MSKB 18 >>> 1998 >>> >>> So, which software package do I down load. >> >> Bill, >> >> You want Version 1., it is located here: >> http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/sunpci/downloads.html >> >> There are dependencies regarding the version of Solaris the host (in this >> case, your Ultra 10) can run (only Solaris 2.5.1, 2.6, 2.7, or 8)... >> >> Hope this helps, >> > > Pretty sure my 400 ran on Sol 9, and right now I have the 700MHz board > running XP Pro / Office 2003 on Sol 10 on a U10/440 (turn off graphics > acceleration in XP Pro to make Office display correctly) > > Angus > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home > From n2vip@verizon.net Sun Mar 4 01:04:53 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (Ken Hansen) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:04:53 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe your card is different from the one of the original poster - I think you are using the 2.X version of the software, and the original poster needed 1.3 - they each support different releases of Solaris... Ken On Mar 3, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Joe West wrote: > I have it running on an Ultra 80 under solaris 9 (600Mhz Celeron > processor) > with no problems. I'm running Windows 2000 professional > > Joe > > > On 3/1/07 2:14 PM, "Angus Fox" wrote: > >> n2vip@verizon.net wrote: >>>> From: Bill Janssen >>>> Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 09:12:44 CST >>>> To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >>>> Subject: [Suns-at-Home] software for Sun PC card >>> >>>> I have this SUN PCI board that I would like to add to my Ultra 10 >>>> >>>> I have looked at the Sun web site and find that they have multiple >>>> driver software >>>> packages and I don't know which one to use. >>>> >>>> I am running Solaris 10. >>>> The board is marked Penguin V1.1.2, 400MHz >>>> The Bar Code is 3750095003682 >>>> There is one chip marked SunPCi >>>> MSKB 18 >>>> 1998 >>>> >>>> So, which software package do I down load. >>> >>> Bill, >>> >>> You want Version 1., it is located here: >>> http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/sunpci/downloads.html >>> >>> There are dependencies regarding the version of Solaris the host >>> (in this >>> case, your Ultra 10) can run (only Solaris 2.5.1, 2.6, 2.7, or 8)... >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> >> >> Pretty sure my 400 ran on Sol 9, and right now I have the 700MHz >> board >> running XP Pro / Office 2003 on Sol 10 on a U10/440 (turn off >> graphics >> acceleration in XP Pro to make Office display correctly) >> >> Angus >> _______________________________________________ >> Suns-at-Home mailing list >> Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com >> http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home >> > > From sastevens@earthlink.net Mon Mar 12 22:53:40 2007 From: sastevens@earthlink.net (Scott Stevens) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Software for a 386i Message-ID: <20070312185340.39dd5045.sastevens@earthlink.net> Well, I took up a list member's offer and made the trip to bring home a Sun 386i machine. Now I need to locate system software to run on it. I have searched 'round the net and the 386i sites almost all appear to have gone offline. ftp://sun386i.mon.org/pub/sun386i looks like the site that I wish was still mirrored somewhere. My understanding is that this 386i will run SunOS 4.0.1 or 4.0.2. It looks, after a trawl all about on the net, as though nobody has ever ported any other OS to this orphaned odd-bird box. I often use NetBSD to 'test out' classic UNIX hardware, that won't be possible on the 386i. Does anybody have a suggestion how I can find the required OS for this box? I don't have anything but the box, so will run it headless, like I run little lunchbox Sparcs. Any pointers to where I can find the pinout to adapt a serial console, or is the pinout 'standard' on the back? There seems to be little info at all online about this thing. (I understand some of the politics of it, but does everybody universally hate these things?) I am a somewhat collector of vintage UNIX hardware, particularly the odd stuff that used Intel processors. I also have an Altos 586 (8086 machine that runs an ancient System 3 derived version of Microsoft Xenix). I also have bunches and bunches of old Sparc boxes and am about to start posting giveaways here to thin out the herd. From Keywords: ; Tue Mar 13 03:24:14 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:24:14 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] problem moving Solaris 9 system disk from U60 to U2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, FYI, I solved it. The trick was to remove the device cache files in /devices as as well as all the actual device links, etc. in that directory and /dev. devfsadm maintains the cache files, so something was clearly getting very confused with the old files still in place. Thankyou for your help! I think I'll write up the process and put it up on a web page somewhere. Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From Keywords: ; Tue Mar 13 03:33:16 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:33:16 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sunblade 1000 doesn't detect FCAL disk! In-Reply-To: <45A1C19E.6020508@doki-doki.net> References: <458AEFCD.7060309@doki-doki.net> <45A1C19E.6020508@doki-doki.net> Message-ID: This one still hasn't been solved, but I think I might have mentioned that I can detect the FCAL disk using the OBP commands, though it still isn't picked up by Solaris when the kernel loads and boots. Checking through the list of installed packages using 'pkginfo' shows I've got the following fibre-channel-related packages installed at present: system SUNWfcip Sun FCIP IP/ARP over FibreChannel Device Driver system SUNWfcipx Sun FCIP IP/ARP over FibreChannel Device Driver (64-bit) system SUNWfctl Sun Fibre Channel Transport layer system SUNWfctlx Sun Fibre Channel Transport layer (64-bit) system SUNWfcp Sun FCP SCSI Device Driver system SUNWfcpx Sun FCP SCSI Device Driver (64-bit) I can't find any more - something tells me there are some missing packages. 8-) I haven't done anything special to make Solaris see the FCAL drive other than numerous '-r' reboots to force device node re-creation since I set up the machine and tried to get it to work with the FCAL drive. Note that the machine is running Solaris 9. It hasn't had a patch kit applied for about 6 months, but I'd not expecting that to fix anything unless someone has access to all the private stuff in SunSolve and knows of some SB-1000-specific FCAL-related software package patches... Regards, Craig. From normando.marcolongo@manolab.net Tue Mar 13 15:19:51 2007 From: normando.marcolongo@manolab.net (Normando Marcolongo) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:19:51 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] problem moving Solaris 9 system disk from U60 to U2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F6C117.1030007@manolab.net> Craig Dewick wrote: > Hi everyone, > > FYI, I solved it. The trick was to remove the device cache files in > /devices as as well as all the actual device links, etc. in that > directory and /dev. devfsadm maintains the cache files, so something > was clearly getting very confused with the old files still in place. > > Thankyou for your help! I think I'll write up the process and put it > up on a web page somewhere. > > Craig. > That would be nice! Thanks, Norm From n2vip@verizon.net Tue Mar 13 16:01:20 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (n2vip@verizon.net) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:01:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sunblade 1000 doesn't detect FCAL disk! Message-ID: <5118419.569911173801682079.JavaMail.root@vms062.mailsrvcs.net> >From: Craig Dewick >Date: 2007/03/12 Mon PM 10:33:16 CDT >To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >Subject: Re: [Suns-at-Home] Sunblade 1000 doesn't detect FCAL disk! > >This one still hasn't been solved, but I think I might have mentioned that >I can detect the FCAL disk using the OBP commands, though it still isn't >picked up by Solaris when the kernel loads and boots. Just asking, but have you tried booting install media (Solaris 9 or 10) and attempting to install on the new drive? Is your Solaris 9 install your own, or a pre-existing install from previous owner? I ask because I wonder if a previous owner might have brute-forced something to make the previous drives work that *somehow* breaks the ability to use different drives. Ken From andre@purplecow.org Tue Mar 13 16:30:58 2007 From: andre@purplecow.org (Andre van Eyssen) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:30:58 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sunblade 1000 doesn't detect FCAL disk! In-Reply-To: References: <458AEFCD.7060309@doki-doki.net> <45A1C19E.6020508@doki-doki.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Craig Dewick wrote: > Note that the machine is running Solaris 9. It hasn't had a patch kit applied > for about 6 months, but I'd not expecting that to fix anything unless someone > has access to all the private stuff in SunSolve and knows of some > SB-1000-specific FCAL-related software package patches... Well, I have a Blade 1000 (using it right now!) and everything required is installed as part of a normal Solaris install. An standard Solaris 10 (06/06) install will give you driver support for most fibre channel cards, including Emulex cards and the like. The first thing I'd do is try the spindle in another machine or try another spindle, and if that passes it'll be time to start working through all your hardware looking for disasters. If you're concerned about the software side, just boot off a recent Solaris CD in single user mode and see if you can see the disk. Don't forget to do a luxadm probe just to make sure. On a cheery note for the list, I've got my new Sun Fire V880 up and kicking along - a very nice machine and one that I've wanted since I first used one. Vroom Vroom. -- Andre van Eyssen. "the only value you can add to a banana is a bruise" -- McNealy. From rleir@leirtech.com Wed Mar 14 14:16:29 2007 From: rleir@leirtech.com (Rick Leir) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:16:29 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: 386i In-Reply-To: <20070313170515.E6AAD93E2@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070313170515.E6AAD93E2@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <1173881789.2488.6.camel@tbird.leirtech.com> > Does anybody have a suggestion how I can find the required OS for this box? > I don't have anything but the box, so will run it headless, like I run little lunchbox Sparcs. > Any pointers to where I can find the pinout to adapt a serial console, > or is the pinout 'standard' on the back? There seems to be little info > at all online about this thing. (I understand some of the politics of it, > but does everybody universally hate these things?) No, I liked using it. It was good if you needed to run Windows and SunOS at the same time, and you could cut/paste between the two. Was it windows 3.1 or 95? Of course, you could not do this headless. My foggy memory says the serial pinout is standard. cheers -- Rick From angusf@mac.com Wed Mar 14 16:02:36 2007 From: angusf@mac.com (Angus Fox) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:02:36 +0000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: 386i In-Reply-To: <1173881789.2488.6.camel@tbird.leirtech.com> References: <20070313170515.E6AAD93E2@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1173881789.2488.6.camel@tbird.leirtech.com> Message-ID: <4BAA145F-9523-4BC2-8F04-A51A4E82F99A@mac.com> On 14 Mar 2007, at 14:16, Rick Leir wrote: >> Does anybody have a suggestion how I can find the required OS for >> this box? >> I don't have anything but the box, so will run it headless, like I >> run little lunchbox Sparcs. >> Any pointers to where I can find the pinout to adapt a serial >> console, >> or is the pinout 'standard' on the back? There seems to be little >> info >> at all online about this thing. (I understand some of the >> politics of it, >> but does everybody universally hate these things?) > > No, I liked using it. It was good if you needed to run Windows and > SunOS at the same time, and you could cut/paste between the two. > Was it > windows 3.1 or 95? Of course, you could not do this headless. > > My foggy memory says the serial pinout is standard. > cheers -- Rick > > Standard but its a DB25 I think. I used to use a null modem cable to connect it to a PC. I had one as my workstation when I worked at Sun Europe but it had a 19in colour monitor. It had a monitor / keyboard mouse integrated cable. I dont know if it boots without the mouse/keyboard. Its much faster with sunview / mailtool than with Open Look too I recall. Angus From sastevens@earthlink.net Wed Mar 14 22:38:11 2007 From: sastevens@earthlink.net (Scott Stevens) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:38:11 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: 386i In-Reply-To: <1173881789.2488.6.camel@tbird.leirtech.com> References: <20070313170515.E6AAD93E2@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1173881789.2488.6.camel@tbird.leirtech.com> Message-ID: <20070314183811.93fa177a.sastevens@earthlink.net> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:16:29 -0400 Rick Leir wrote: > > Does anybody have a suggestion how I can find the required OS for this box? > > I don't have anything but the box, so will run it headless, like I run little lunchbox Sparcs. > > Any pointers to where I can find the pinout to adapt a serial console, > > or is the pinout 'standard' on the back? There seems to be little info > > at all online about this thing. (I understand some of the politics of it, > > but does everybody universally hate these things?) > > No, I liked using it. It was good if you needed to run Windows and > SunOS at the same time, and you could cut/paste between the two. Was it > windows 3.1 or 95? Of course, you could not do this headless. > Could it run X11 headless and export the display to display the 'doze on another box with a more common display? > My foggy memory says the serial pinout is standard. > cheers -- Rick From davebarnes@adelphia.net Thu Mar 15 02:34:07 2007 From: davebarnes@adelphia.net (David Barnes) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:34:07 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 Message-ID: Hello all; Anyone else on this list have an E4500 at home? I just picked one up... it has 6 400mhz processors, and 4gb ram. Couple of 9gb disks, but I plan to fibre attach it to my A5200 array. How is the performance of this machine? Compared to say my E450? thanks David Barnes davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix From costellob@asme.org Thu Mar 15 06:18:50 2007 From: costellob@asme.org (Brian Costello) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:18:50 -0700 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sunfire V100 live Message-ID: <45F8E54A.9010000@asme.org> I finally got all the bugs worked out and have my new (to me at least) Sunfire V100 up and running. You can see it here: http://costello.mine.nu/private/mysun.html . The picture shows the old SS20 still up but it is now down (but not out). The biggest challenge was getting sendmail running correctly. It runs my personal web site, home mail server, DHCP server, and an occassional FTP server. The routing duties are now handled by my Linksys wireless switch / router. The Linksys box could handle the DHCP service but it does not have the flexibility to assign specific address like can be done with Solaris. BTW, the DHCP in solaris 9 is way different than Solaris 2.6 so that had a bit of a learning curve. Since the last system I build from scratch was something like 7 years ago, my admin skills were ( and still are) pretty rusty. Thanks to all who provided support and advice. -- Brian P. Costello costellob@asme.org San Francisco Bay Area From huge@huge.org.uk Thu Mar 15 17:27:58 2007 From: huge@huge.org.uk (Huge) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:27:58 +0000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: 386i In-Reply-To: <20070315170519.80D9493C0@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070315170519.80D9493C0@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <1173979677.788.18.camel@apophis> > From: Scott Stevens > > Could it run X11 headless and export the display to display the 'doze on another box with a more common display? Was Sunview even based on X? I didn't think it was ... From adh@an.bradford.ma.us Thu Mar 15 22:53:03 2007 From: adh@an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: 386i Message-ID: <200703152253.l2FMr3w00778@an.bradford.ma.us> " From: Huge " " " > From: Scott Stevens " > " > Could it run X11 headless and export the display to display the 'doze on another box with a more common display? " " Was Sunview even based on X? I didn't think it was ... no, it was pre-x. openview - still around on s8 - was the x version of sunview. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@an.bradford.ma.us and think what none thought From sastevens@earthlink.net Thu Mar 15 23:26:42 2007 From: sastevens@earthlink.net (Scott Stevens) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:26:42 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: 386i In-Reply-To: <1173979677.788.18.camel@apophis> References: <20070315170519.80D9493C0@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1173979677.788.18.camel@apophis> Message-ID: <20070315192642.4f2d3e67.sastevens@earthlink.net> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:27:58 +0000 Huge wrote: > > > From: Scott Stevens > > > > > Could it run X11 headless and export the display to display the 'doze on another box with a more common display? > > Was Sunview even based on X? I didn't think it was ... > > I probably should have mentioned at the onset of the whole thread that I don't know nearly enough about SunOS. Bringing up this 386i will be a learning experience. To switch the thread a little, what other hardware would I be able to run SunOS on? I've always just run Solaris or NetBSD on my Sparc boxes. Would I be able to run a version of SunOS on, say, a SparcStation 1, 2, or 5? An IPC or IPX? What I see on the net is mostly people running SunOS on Sun2 and Sun3 hardware. These are probably FAQ questions, but I'm tossing them in for discussion, this is a fairly low traffic list. From adh@an.bradford.ma.us Fri Mar 16 02:02:17 2007 From: adh@an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: 386i Message-ID: <200703160202.l2G22Hs02202@an.bradford.ma.us> " From: Scott Stevens " " " To switch the thread a little, what other hardware would I be able to " run SunOS on? I've always just run Solaris or NetBSD on my Sparc " boxes. Would I be able to run a version of SunOS on, say, a " SparcStation 1, 2, or 5? An IPC or IPX? What I see on the net is " mostly people running SunOS on Sun2 and Sun3 hardware. you can run sunos4 on anything up to a sparc20. the ss1000/2000 were the first to require solaris2, and of course all the ultras do. it'd be interesting to see if one could 'run' sunos4 in a chroot jail under solaris with the compat libs. i've always wanted to see if i could compile things that way which would run under real sunos4. oh - they never got around to writing a sx fb driver for sunos4, so you're stuck with sbus fbs on the ss20. and btw by the time 4.1.4 came out, sun had folded the ross patches in so as to support the ross cpus which became optional. this had the side effect of fixing multiproc stability not only for hypersparcs but for ti supersparcs also. i personally saw a 10 with dual 50s and a 20 with dual 60s up for more than 3 months in a heavy cad/simulation environment. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@an.bradford.ma.us and think what none thought From sun.mail.list@oryx.cc Fri Mar 16 16:48:52 2007 From: sun.mail.list@oryx.cc (Jerry Kemp) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:48:52 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45FACA74.50305@oryx.cc> Hello David, I have an E4500 at home. Mine is similar to yours, I have 8 processors (vs 6), but other than our situations sound similar. I don't have an E450, so I can't directly answer your question, but I am sure that you have already figured out, 6 * 400 MHz != to a 2.4 Ghz processor. A couple of things that I am doing with mine are that I picked up a D1000 array, and that makes it nice for working/training/playing with ZFS. I gave up on finding the PCI 24 bit frame buffer. The ones that I found cost as much as I paid for the E4500. Instead, I am using SunRay's, and that is a neat environment to be in also. If you have other questions, please post on line. Hope this helps, Jerry Kemp David Barnes wrote: > Hello all; > > Anyone else on this list have an E4500 at home? I just picked one up... > it has 6 400mhz processors, and 4gb ram. Couple of 9gb disks, but I plan > to fibre attach it to my A5200 array. > > How is the performance of this machine? Compared to say my E450? > > thanks > > > David Barnes > > davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net > OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix > > > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com Fri Mar 16 17:13:01 2007 From: silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com (silvercreekvalley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] sparc powerlite - display problem Message-ID: <934762.89048.qm@web56210.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I'm having trouble with a Sparc Powerlite laptop. This works perfectly in standalone mode, but when I plug in an external monitor - the image breaks up whenever there is disk activity. Its pretty severe - too bad to actually tolerate in normal use. The internal disk is the IBM 1.2G scsi drive (2.5") and seems to be OK. The model is the 'Turbo sparc model' with 64M ram. When nothing is connected to the monitor socket, the LCD display is fine. I'm not sure if this might be PSU related? Any ideas? Thanks Ian ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA Fri Mar 16 20:28:59 2007 From: mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA (der Mouse) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] sparc powerlite - display problem In-Reply-To: <934762.89048.qm@web56210.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <934762.89048.qm@web56210.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703162051.QAA13366@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> > I'm having trouble with a Sparc Powerlite laptop. > This works perfectly in standalone mode, but when I plug in an > external monitor - the image breaks up whenever there is disk > activity. Its pretty severe - too bad to actually tolerate in normal > use. Interesting. I have experience to report that might be related (but also might not). My desktop machine at work is an LX. When it was connected to a CRT, everything was fine. But some months back they switched me over to a flatscreen. I promptly started seeing flickering streaky horizontal lines on the display. After a good deal of experimenting, I came to the conclusion that they are related to some kind of host activity (CPU, disk, I don't know), probably reflecting some kind of impedance mismatch between the video card and the flatscreen or excessive sensitivity by the display or some such. Oddly enough, this does not happen at home, where I also have a Sun driving a flatscreen. It could be that the machine is different (a SS20's onboard cgfourteen versus the LX's onboard cgsix), it could be that the display is different (a Dell at work, an Acer at home), it could be that the cable is different (maybe the sheild grounding is broken in one of them or something?), I don't know.... > Get your own web address. Um, no thanks; if I wanted a "web address" I'd already have one. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL Um, no thanks; even if I were willing to go near Yahoo, I'm not a small business. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse@rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B From paul@anastrophe.com Fri Mar 16 21:02:37 2007 From: paul@anastrophe.com (Paul Theodoropoulos) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:02:37 -0700 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 In-Reply-To: <45FACA74.50305@oryx.cc> References: <45FACA74.50305@oryx.cc> Message-ID: <20070316210255.A334B93C9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> At 09:48 AM 3/16/2007, Jerry Kemp wrote: >I don't have an E450, so I can't directly answer your question, but >I am sure that you have already figured out, 6 * 400 MHz != to a 2.4 >Ghz processor. They may not be equal, but they are not that disparate either. six processors running in parallel pack a pretty good whallop. Under some circumstances - all other things being equal! - 6x400mhz could be preferable to 1x2.4ghz - not the least being in a production setting where downtime is a real problem. being able to swap out a bad cpu without taking down the whole machine is....nice. Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com From benjamin.lewis@belgacom.net Fri Mar 16 21:08:43 2007 From: benjamin.lewis@belgacom.net (Ben Lewis) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:08:43 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88640805-FBC8-43BF-A123-D4875E78E678@belgacom.net> > How is the performance of this machine? Compared to say my E450? Hi David I think the performance is pretty good, we ran this model with Oracle 8 and a telco xDSL provisioning application for several customers who were really pushing them. Having one at home is a different story unless you have a suitable garage or a basement (or a really big house). For me it's not really worthwhile booting my E4500 up when I can run things (oracle, bea weblogic, tomcat etc) on an Ultra 5 for much less noise output and power input. Ok everything takes a little longer to come up but it's worth the wait just to keep the noise down. If you have a cat 5 wired garage or basement (like I wish I had) then it's a great machine. Best regards Ben From davebarnes@adelphia.net Sat Mar 17 00:45:27 2007 From: davebarnes@adelphia.net (David Barnes) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:45:27 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 In-Reply-To: <45FACA74.50305@oryx.cc> References: <45FACA74.50305@oryx.cc> Message-ID: <3BCC28CF-0E2A-482D-A646-637A34C73120@adelphia.net> Thanks Jerry. Yeah I am going to use a Sunray... I have one served by my E250... the E4500 is running headless now... I plan to cable it up to an A5200 fibre array I also picked up.. thanks David Barnes davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix On Mar 16, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > Hello David, > > I have an E4500 at home. Mine is similar to yours, I have 8 > processors (vs 6), but other than our situations sound similar. > > I don't have an E450, so I can't directly answer your question, but > I am sure that you have already figured out, 6 * 400 MHz != to a > 2.4 Ghz processor. > > A couple of things that I am doing with mine are that I picked up a > D1000 array, and that makes it nice for working/training/playing > with ZFS. > > I gave up on finding the PCI 24 bit frame buffer. The ones that I > found cost as much as I paid for the E4500. > > Instead, I am using SunRay's, and that is a neat environment to be > in also. > > If you have other questions, please post on line. > > Hope this helps, > > Jerry Kemp > > > David Barnes wrote: >> Hello all; >> Anyone else on this list have an E4500 at home? I just picked one >> up... it has 6 400mhz processors, and 4gb ram. Couple of 9gb >> disks, but I plan to fibre attach it to my A5200 array. >> How is the performance of this machine? Compared to say my E450? >> thanks >> David Barnes >> davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net >> OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix >> _______________________________________________ >> Suns-at-Home mailing list >> Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com >> http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From davebarnes@adelphia.net Sat Mar 17 00:49:24 2007 From: davebarnes@adelphia.net (David Barnes) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:49:24 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 In-Reply-To: <20070316210255.A334B93C9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <45FACA74.50305@oryx.cc> <20070316210255.A334B93C9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: Yes... I was surprised to learn in my research on this machine that it supports hot swap CPU modules... (well I assume the board at least... ) Yes I agree... I would rather have 6x 400mhz procs than a single ... as long as the machine can move I/O (which the 4500 was designed to do) you can get some serious work done. David Barnes davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix On Mar 16, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: > At 09:48 AM 3/16/2007, Jerry Kemp wrote: >> I don't have an E450, so I can't directly answer your question, >> but I am sure that you have already figured out, 6 * 400 MHz != to >> a 2.4 Ghz processor. > > They may not be equal, but they are not that disparate either. six > processors running in parallel pack a pretty good whallop. Under > some circumstances - all other things being equal! - 6x400mhz could > be preferable to 1x2.4ghz - not the least being in a production > setting where downtime is a real problem. being able to swap out a > bad cpu without taking down the whole machine is....nice. > > > Paul Theodoropoulos > http://www.anastrophe.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From davebarnes@adelphia.net Sat Mar 17 00:51:03 2007 From: davebarnes@adelphia.net (David Barnes) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:51:03 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 In-Reply-To: <88640805-FBC8-43BF-A123-D4875E78E678@belgacom.net> References: <88640805-FBC8-43BF-A123-D4875E78E678@belgacom.net> Message-ID: <795320A3-0FF5-4406-8586-A34BBF3DB747@adelphia.net> Hi Ben... actually its in my bedroom (I have an apt).... its really NOT that loud... quieter than my E450 actually.. .and you are correct.. it does draw some power.... but I would expect that with 6 cpu's and that much memory. Probably become a problem in the summer when it warms up around here..:) David Barnes davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix On Mar 16, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Ben Lewis wrote: >> How is the performance of this machine? Compared to say my E450? > > Hi David > > I think the performance is pretty good, we ran this model with > Oracle 8 and a telco xDSL provisioning application for several > customers who were really pushing them. > > Having one at home is a different story unless you have a suitable > garage or a basement (or a really big house). For me it's not > really worthwhile booting my E4500 up when I can run things > (oracle, bea weblogic, tomcat etc) on an Ultra 5 for much less > noise output and power input. Ok everything takes a little longer > to come up but it's worth the wait just to keep the noise down. > > If you have a cat 5 wired garage or basement (like I wish I had) > then it's a great machine. > > Best regards > > Ben > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From Keywords: ; Sat Mar 17 01:23:19 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:23:19 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, David Barnes wrote: > Hello all; > > Anyone else on this list have an E4500 at home? I just picked one up... it > has 6 400mhz processors, and 4gb ram. Couple of 9gb disks, but I plan to > fibre attach it to my A5200 array. > > How is the performance of this machine? Compared to say my E450? It'll uses loads of power compared to an E450 - what's the mains supply to your house like? I'm on single-phase but we're 240 VAC here in Australia which helps reduce the current load compared to 120 VAC mains. I have an E450 running though I'm not sure what it's actual power usage is. Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From davebarnes@adelphia.net Sat Mar 17 14:11:21 2007 From: davebarnes@adelphia.net (David Barnes) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:11:21 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually it does not draw that much power... I have it on a 110v 15a circuit.... According to the docs I found the E4500 draws MAX 12amps. (I have an 8 slot model). My E450 (with 4gb ram and 4x 400mhz procs) draws about the same... David Barnes davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix On Mar 16, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Craig Dewick wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, David Barnes wrote: > >> Hello all; >> >> Anyone else on this list have an E4500 at home? I just picked one >> up... it has 6 400mhz processors, and 4gb ram. Couple of 9gb >> disks, but I plan to fibre attach it to my A5200 array. >> >> How is the performance of this machine? Compared to say my E450? > > It'll uses loads of power compared to an E450 - what's the mains > supply to your house like? I'm on single-phase but we're 240 VAC > here in Australia which helps reduce the current load compared to > 120 VAC mains. > > I have an E450 running though I'm not sure what it's actual power > usage is. > > Craig. > > -- > Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". > Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http:// > www.sunshack.org" > Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech > data, etc. > Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub? > ring=sunmicrosystemsu". > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From awouk@nilenet.com Sat Mar 17 17:16:05 2007 From: awouk@nilenet.com (Arthur Wouk) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:16:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ultra-1 nvram question In-Reply-To: <20070317170518.8772A93EA@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <20070317171605.A100C1CC80@mail.nilenet.com> my ultra-1 no longer keeps time when i remove power. however, when i boot, it still has the ethernet address properly listed in the boot banner, not the feared ff:ff:ff:ff. so, is my battery dead, or is something else going on? From aewing@gmail.com Sat Mar 17 20:53:42 2007 From: aewing@gmail.com (Ahmed Ewing) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:53:42 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ultra-1 nvram question In-Reply-To: <20070317171605.A100C1CC80@mail.nilenet.com> References: <20070317170518.8772A93EA@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <20070317171605.A100C1CC80@mail.nilenet.com> Message-ID: On 3/17/07, Arthur Wouk wrote: > my ultra-1 no longer keeps time when i remove power. however, when i boot, it > still has the ethernet address properly listed in the boot banner, not the > feared ff:ff:ff:ff. so, is my battery dead, or is something else going on? All MAC address bits being set high is not a required symptom of a bad NVRAM, just a common one. If you have another U1 available to try swapping them, do so. The TOD clock is likely malfunctioning even though the battery portion might still hold a charge. Hope that helps, -A From n2vip@verizon.net Sun Mar 18 00:21:57 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (n2vip@verizon.net) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:21:57 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ultra-1 nvram question Message-ID: <16353255.1379991174177317337.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net> There is an NVRAM chip on the motherboard that holds the "identity" of your machine, including it's MAC address and the current Time Of Day clock. You can futz with the OpenBoot PROM commands to reset it each time it reboots, you can replace the chip and reprogram it, or you can very carefully add a new battery and continue to use the existing chip (which will still have to be reprogrammed)... There are numerous sources for this information, useful google terms would be "sun nvram hack" - this info pre-dates the Ultra 1. The problem is that the TOD/NVRAM chip contains a small battery, and that battery will run out. If you'd like to replace your base OR upgrade to an Ultra 2, contact me off list - I have plenty and would be happy to ship you a replacement system... Ken >From: Arthur Wouk >Date: 2007/03/17 Sat AM 11:16:05 CST >To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ultra-1 nvram question >my ultra-1 no longer keeps time when i remove power. however, when i boot, it >still has the ethernet address properly listed in the boot banner, not the >feared ff:ff:ff:ff. so, is my battery dead, or is something else going on? >_______________________________________________ >Suns-at-Home mailing list >Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com >http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From n2vip@verizon.net Sun Mar 18 00:37:21 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (n2vip@verizon.net) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:37:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 Message-ID: <2777456.1381231174178241138.JavaMail.root@vms171.mailsrvcs.net> >From: Jerry Kemp >Date: 2007/03/16 Fri AM 10:48:52 CST >To: David Barnes , suns-at-home >Subject: Re: [Suns-at-Home] Sun E4500 >Hello David, > >I have an E4500 at home. Mine is similar to yours, I have 8 processors >(vs 6), but other than our situations sound similar. >I gave up on finding the PCI 24 bit frame buffer. The ones that I found >cost as much as I paid for the E4500. Well, without knowing what you paid for the E4500, I find it hard to believe that a UPA graphics adapter is THAT expensive ("horizontal" Creator cards are quite reasonable on eBay)... Ken From Keywords: ; Sun Mar 18 02:30:53 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:30:53 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] ultra-1 nvram question In-Reply-To: <20070317171605.A100C1CC80@mail.nilenet.com> References: <20070317171605.A100C1CC80@mail.nilenet.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Arthur Wouk wrote: > my ultra-1 no longer keeps time when i remove power. however, when i boot, it > still has the ethernet address properly listed in the boot banner, not the > feared ff:ff:ff:ff. so, is my battery dead, or is something else going on? Yes it means the internal lithium cell (that keeps the internal real-time clock going and retains the contents of the internal static RAM powered) has run out of charge. All the 1st and 2nd general Ultrasparc machines use 48T59 NVRAM's - you can program a new one yourself using simple Forth language commands (since the OBP firmware is basically a program running in a Forth interpreter). Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From shel@tandem.artell.net Mon Mar 19 04:13:48 2007 From: shel@tandem.artell.net (Sheldon T. Hall) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:13:48 -0700 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun Monitor Remote Controls Message-ID: <003801c769dc$fea3ae90$7000a8c0@artell.net> I found two Sun Monitor remotes at the junk store the other day. I have no Sun monitors anymore, so these are available... Model: RMC-D10 Part: 370-1576-01 Rectangular, credit-card size. Ten paired controls. I have no idea if they work, but both are very clean, neat, and nice-looking. Yours for shipping if you need one. If I have one supplicant, you get 'em both. Otherwise, I'll flip a coin to see which one you get. -Shel From chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 16:48:27 2007 From: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:48:27 -0000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] LCD Monitor for Suns Message-ID: I need to find a flat-screen 19" monitor to put on my Ultra-2 (with Creator, aka FFB, graphics). It seems that my requirements are: 1. Needs analogue RGB inout (e.g. VGA) 2. Needs 1280x1024 pixels 3. Must support conbined sync 4. Must be able to sync at either 60, 67 or 76 Hz Is there any other requirement that must be met? And any suggestions/experience with what actually works well? And do LCD monitors tend to have problems with individual broken pixels, or is it reasonable to expect 100% working? -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131     Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk      Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9      Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 From awouk@nilenet.com Thu Mar 22 17:57:53 2007 From: awouk@nilenet.com (Arthur Wouk) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:57:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] what i decided about my ultra-1 with bad nvram Message-ID: <20070322175753.E1F6E1CD44@mail.nilenet.com> the battery failed, and, after all the advive, i had to decide whether i would replace the nvram or give up on the box. i decided i have enough alternative machines to abandon it. so it is up for grabs or for parting out (shipping cost only). specs: ultra-1E, 200 mhz cpu, sun 4.2g hard drive, seagate st39204lc hard drive. 1gig ram, creator framebuffer. fbinfo reports that the creator runs at 67mhz and is at 1150x900x6. i don't know which creater franebuffer this is. except for the nvram battery, the machine is fine. it would be nice if someone within driving distance would want to pick it up. i live in boulder, colorado. . - From michael@ritzert.net Thu Mar 22 20:21:27 2007 From: michael@ritzert.net (Dr. Michael Ritzert) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:21:27 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] LCD Monitor for Suns In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4602E547.8070407@ritzert.net> Hello Charles Lindsey wrote: > I need to find a flat-screen 19" monitor to put on my Ultra-2 (with > Creator, aka FFB, graphics). > > It seems that my requirements are: > > 1. Needs analogue RGB inout (e.g. VGA) > 2. Needs 1280x1024 pixels > 3. Must support conbined sync > 4. Must be able to sync at either 60, 67 or 76 Hz The monitor must support SUN compatible video timings. Probably hard t find nowadays. My old GERICOM 17" LCD runs fine on a LEO. mhmm, the FFB is able to procuce SXVGA compatible timings, isn't it? It should not have a fixed VGA cable but instead a VGA connector in order to allow VGA/13W3 cables to be used. have luck. Beate > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From n2vip@verizon.net Thu Mar 22 20:47:35 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (n2vip@verizon.net) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:47:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] LCD Monitor for Suns Message-ID: <30898451.2898941174596456304.JavaMail.root@vms070.mailsrvcs.net> >From: Charles Lindsey >Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 11:48:27 CDT >To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >Subject: [Suns-at-Home] LCD Monitor for Suns >I need to find a flat-screen 19" monitor to put on my Ultra-2 (with >Creator, aka FFB, graphics). > >It seems that my requirements are: > >1. Needs analogue RGB inout (e.g. VGA) >2. Needs 1280x1024 pixels >3. Must support conbined sync >4. Must be able to sync at either 60, 67 or 76 Hz > >Is there any other requirement that must be met? > >And any suggestions/experience with what actually works well? Sorry, I've only worked with LCDs on Ultra 5/10 and 20 (Opteron machine), as well as the SunBlade 1000 (with a DVI interface), and have had no real problems, unless the framebuffer is locked at a certain, incompatible setting, but - usually corrects that)... >And do LCD monitors tend to have problems with individual broken pixels, >or is it reasonable to expect 100% working? If it is new, I've always gotten 100% working, but I do know that different Mfg. have different thresholds for # of failed pixels before a panel is considered "bad" and in need of replacement - check the Mfg. website before purchase if you are worried about that... IMHO it is _reasonable_ to _expect_ 100% working, but that may not be the case. Ken From enigmaticmachine@yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 21:50:41 2007 From: enigmaticmachine@yahoo.com (aaron hayes) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Solaris software collection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <201355.62596.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, I'm new to the Sun Solaris thing, but I've always wanted sparc hardware, and now I can finally afford it. (sorta) I've got an ultra 2, 2x300MHZ, 2 GB ram, installed solaris 10 on it. I'm getting a E420r, 4x450 MHZ, 4 GB ram, 2x9 GB disk, I'd imagine I'll run solaris 10 on it. My question is, what software would you install on these machines in a workstation/education environment? I just want to learn more about Sun stuff. I really like the sunray idea, and can pickup some sunray's for $50 each at a shop near my home. But have no idea how to begin setting that up.I setup Sun Secure global desktop, which I like, but its only a 30 day demo, is there a free version of something similar? are there other more desktop friendly os's out there? what software do you think makes Solaris/sparc great equipment? what do you actually run on it? ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From rich@brake.homeunix.org Fri Mar 23 08:48:20 2007 From: rich@brake.homeunix.org (Richard Skelton) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:48:20 +0000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Solaris software collection In-Reply-To: <201355.62596.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <201355.62596.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46039454.6060703@brake.homeunix.org> aaron hayes wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm new to the Sun Solaris thing, but I've always > wanted sparc hardware, and now I can finally afford > it. (sorta) > I've got an ultra 2, 2x300MHZ, 2 GB ram, installed > solaris 10 on it. I'm getting a E420r, 4x450 MHZ, 4 GB > ram, 2x9 GB disk, I'd imagine I'll run solaris 10 on > it. > > My question is, what software would you install on > these machines in a workstation/education environment? > > I just want to learn more about Sun stuff. I really > like the sunray idea, and can pickup some sunray's for > $50 each at a shop near my home. But have no idea how > to begin setting that up.I setup Sun Secure global > desktop, which I like, but its only a 30 day demo, is > there a free version of something similar? are there > other more desktop friendly os's out there? what > software do you think makes Solaris/sparc great > equipment? what do you actually run on it? > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home > > > Hi, Take a look at :- http://planet.sun-rays.org/ http://www.sun-rays.org/ The Sun Ray Software is real easy to install Read the above and then the install docs. -- Cheers Richard. "The box said 'Windows 2000 Server or better', so I installed Solaris" Richard Skelton | e-mail : Richard.Skelton@brake.homeunix.org WWW : http://brake.homeunix.org/ Fax : +44 870 052 1029 From chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 20:59:35 2007 From: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:59:35 -0000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: Suns-at-Home digest, Vol 1 #512 - 6 msgs In-Reply-To: <20070323170524.576B693CE@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070323170524.576B693CE@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:21:27 +0100 > From: "Dr. Michael Ritzert" > To: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com > Subject: Re: [Suns-at-Home] LCD Monitor for Suns > Hello > Charles Lindsey wrote: >> I need to find a flat-screen 19" monitor to put on my Ultra-2 (with >> Creator, aka FFB, graphics). >> >> It seems that my requirements are: >> >> 1. Needs analogue RGB inout (e.g. VGA) >> 2. Needs 1280x1024 pixels >> 3. Must support conbined sync >> 4. Must be able to sync at either 60, 67 or 76 Hz > The monitor must support SUN compatible video timings. Probably hard > t find > nowadays. My old GERICOM 17" LCD runs fine on a LEO. What does "SUN compatible video timings" mean (beyond the 4 items I have listed above)? > mhmm, the FFB is able to procuce SXVGA compatible timings, isn't it? AFAICS, "SXVGA" means the same as "SVGA". and every LCD display I have looked at seems to support SVGA. I just wanted to now what other "gotchas" there might be. > It should not have a fixed VGA cable but instead a VGA connector in > order to > allow VGA/13W3 cables to be used. Yes, but 13W3->VGA adaptors are easily had. -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131     Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk      Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9      Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 From davebarnes@adelphia.net Sun Mar 25 03:39:30 2007 From: davebarnes@adelphia.net (David Barnes) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:39:30 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] E450 480mhz procs Message-ID: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> Hello All; I was wondering if anyone has ever SEEN or OWN the infamous 480mhz processors that were an option in the Sun E450? I have to say that for years , I have been kind of looking for some , on Ebay etc, and I have NEVER seen any for sale.. were they THAT rare? just curious... David Barnes davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix From awouk@nilenet.com Sun Mar 25 17:48:06 2007 From: awouk@nilenet.com (Arthur Wouk) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:48:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] parting out ultra-1 Message-ID: <20070325174806.C4BB51CD56@mail.nilenet.com> i have abandoned my ultra-1 whose nvram battery died - it really isn;t worth the effort for me replace the battery. unless someone wants the whole (200mhz cpu, creator framebuffer, 1 gig ram, one 4.2 gig hard drive, one seagate st391... hard drive, everything but the battery working perfectly), i am parting it out. the framebuffer and ram are already spoken for, but other parts are available. shipping cost is all i ask. From Keywords: ; Sun Mar 25 22:18:15 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:18:15 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] E450 480mhz procs In-Reply-To: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> References: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, David Barnes wrote: > Hello All; > > I was wondering if anyone has ever SEEN or OWN the infamous 480mhz processors > that were an option in the Sun E450? I have to say that for years , I have > been kind of looking for some , on Ebay etc, and I have NEVER seen any for > sale.. were they THAT rare? They probably were rare. I think they're a bit like the comparison between the SM71 70 MHz and SM81 80 MHz supersparc-II processors that were around when we used to run SS20's, and later the SS1000 and SC2000 systems as primary servers in production use. SM81's seriously pushed the envelope as far as heating and power usage went compared to performance in the context of the overall system design. The 480 MHz Ultrasparc-II's are the equivalent of that when compared to the 450 MHz ones, based on my experience. I had some 480 MHz processors just once when I was running my SRK business at full-tilt about 4 years ago and at the time the market price for them was absurdly high. Haven't seen any since. That aside, it would be interesting. My E450 system is running a pair of 400's. I'm not sure if the 450's (x1195's) that work in Ultra 60's and 80's will run in E450's because of the different VRM setup. If I was able to find some 480's I'd like to try them out. Not sure the power bill would like the extra meter charges though! 8-) Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From davebarnes@adelphia.net Mon Mar 26 03:34:21 2007 From: davebarnes@adelphia.net (David Barnes) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:34:21 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] E450 480mhz procs In-Reply-To: References: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> Message-ID: Yes true... my E450 has 4 400mhz procs and it sucks some power... as far as I know the only speeds ever supported for the E450 were (300 or 333?) , 400, and the rare 480 procs... I was wondering if maybe they had some problems with the 480mhz processor cards and thats why they are not around much? dunno.. David Barnes davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix On Mar 25, 2007, at 6:18 PM, Craig Dewick wrote: > On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, David Barnes wrote: > >> Hello All; >> >> I was wondering if anyone has ever SEEN or OWN the infamous 480mhz >> processors that were an option in the Sun E450? I have to say >> that for years , I have been kind of looking for some , on Ebay >> etc, and I have NEVER seen any for sale.. were they THAT rare? > > They probably were rare. I think they're a bit like the comparison > between the SM71 70 MHz and SM81 80 MHz supersparc-II processors > that were around when we used to run SS20's, and later the SS1000 > and SC2000 systems as primary servers in production use. SM81's > seriously pushed the envelope as far as heating and power usage > went compared to performance in the context of the overall system > design. > > The 480 MHz Ultrasparc-II's are the equivalent of that when > compared to the 450 MHz ones, based on my experience. I had some > 480 MHz processors just once when I was running my SRK business at > full-tilt about 4 years ago and at the time the market price for > them was absurdly high. Haven't seen any since. > > That aside, it would be interesting. My E450 system is running a > pair of 400's. I'm not sure if the 450's (x1195's) that work in > Ultra 60's and 80's will run in E450's because of the different VRM > setup. If I was able to find some 480's I'd like to try them out. > Not sure the power bill would like the extra meter charges though! 8-) > > Craig. > > -- > Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". > Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http:// > www.sunshack.org" > Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech > data, etc. > Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub? > ring=sunmicrosystemsu". > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home From andre@purplecow.org Mon Mar 26 12:13:52 2007 From: andre@purplecow.org (Andre van Eyssen) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:13:52 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] E450 480mhz procs In-Reply-To: References: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, David Barnes wrote: > I was wondering if maybe they had some problems with the 480mhz processor > cards and thats why they are not around much? The 480Mhz CPUs came in a kit that included addditional airflow guides and using them derated the temperature range for the 450. -- Andre van Eyssen. "the only value you can add to a banana is a bruise" -- McNealy. From paul@anastrophe.com Mon Mar 26 16:17:07 2007 From: paul@anastrophe.com (Paul Theodoropoulos) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:17:07 -0700 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] E450 480mhz procs In-Reply-To: References: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <20070326161813.5B3A393C0@tigger.net-kitchen.com> At 03:18 PM 3/25/2007, Craig Dewick wrote: >They probably were rare. I think they're a bit like the comparison >between the SM71 70 MHz and SM81 80 MHz supersparc-II processors >that were around when we used to run SS20's, and later the SS1000 >and SC2000 systems as primary servers in production use. SM81's >seriously pushed the envelope as far as heating and power usage went >compared to performance in the context of the overall system design. not to be pedantic (translation: i'm being pedantic) - bu tthe SM71 was 75mhz, the SM81 was 85mhz. Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com From Keywords: ; Tue Mar 27 01:13:49 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:13:49 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] E450 480mhz procs In-Reply-To: <20070326161813.5B3A393C0@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> <20070326161813.5B3A393C0@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: > At 03:18 PM 3/25/2007, Craig Dewick wrote: >> They probably were rare. I think they're a bit like the comparison between >> the SM71 70 MHz and SM81 80 MHz supersparc-II processors that were around >> when we used to run SS20's, and later the SS1000 and SC2000 systems as >> primary servers in production use. SM81's seriously pushed the envelope as >> far as heating and power usage went compared to performance in the context >> of the overall system design. > > not to be pedantic (translation: i'm being pedantic) - bu tthe SM71 was > 75mhz, the SM81 was 85mhz. Doh yes you're right! Thanks for pointing out my pre-cambrian mind-slip! 8-) But apart from that, I think the SM71 vs SM81 comparison with uSparc-II CPU's makes sense. Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From davebarnes@adelphia.net Tue Mar 27 01:15:26 2007 From: davebarnes@adelphia.net (David Barnes) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:15:26 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] E450 480mhz procs In-Reply-To: References: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <094291B0-C7AA-475C-87D6-C516A947348E@adelphia.net> Hmmm guess that would make sense... thanks for the info David Barnes davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix On Mar 26, 2007, at 8:13 AM, Andre van Eyssen wrote: > On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, David Barnes wrote: > >> I was wondering if maybe they had some problems with the 480mhz >> processor cards and thats why they are not around much? > > The 480Mhz CPUs came in a kit that included addditional airflow > guides and using them derated the temperature range for the 450. > > -- > Andre van Eyssen. > "the only value you can add to a banana is a bruise" > -- McNealy. From paul@anastrophe.com Tue Mar 27 06:11:32 2007 From: paul@anastrophe.com (Paul Theodoropoulos) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:11:32 -0700 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] E450 480mhz procs In-Reply-To: References: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> <20070326161813.5B3A393C0@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <20070327061233.0DEAB93C0@tigger.net-kitchen.com> At 06:13 PM 3/26/2007, Craig Dewick wrote: >Doh yes you're right! Thanks for pointing out my pre-cambrian mind-slip! 8-) > >But apart from that, I think the SM71 vs SM81 comparison with >uSparc-II CPU's makes sense. oh yeah, definitely. as a long time 'connoisseur' of the sparc 20, i own and have run the SM40, SM41, SM50, SM60, SM71, SM81, not to mention all the Hypersparc modules (i have a whole bag full of all of these modules, probably weighs twenty pounds) (not to mention the half-dozen or so sparc 20 chassis's in the garage that my wife hates). The SM81 was for a long time scarcer than hen's teeth. it's a sweet module, but running a pair of them generated as much heat as any of the hypersparcs - i always mounted a PC slot-exhaust fan next to the modules to try to cope with that heat. man i'm getting wistful, i want to go fire up one of my '20's. (btw, when hitting 'reply' or 'reply all' on your message, the 'to' field is filled with " Keywords: ; " without the quotes). Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com From aewing@gmail.com Tue Mar 27 14:01:53 2007 From: aewing@gmail.com (Ahmed Ewing) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:01:53 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] E450 480mhz procs In-Reply-To: References: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> Message-ID: On 3/25/07, David Barnes wrote: > Yes true... my E450 has 4 400mhz procs and it sucks some power... as > far as I know the only speeds ever supported for the E450 were (300 > or 333?) , 400, and the rare 480 procs... A 250MHz/2mb US-II was also supported, but you typically tend to see those only in early examples like the Ultra 450 "workstation". > I was wondering if maybe they had some problems with the 480mhz > processor cards and thats why they are not around much? > > dunno.. I've come across maybe two or three that I can think of, among hundreds of presumed-bad US-II modules I've personally handled over the years in a support role. However, I've never been informed of any particular issue specific to that speed module. My best guess is the promise of US-III-based boxes kept them from selling in any large quantities, and they were perhaps intended as ROI insurance for the largest dedicated Sun shops featuring huge E450 installed bases. Nothing like a continued upgrade path to keep the masses content. I'd have to check when the exact announce/GA dates were to confirm that theory, though--this is all pure conjecture that's likely to be disproven :) As a "gotcha" for anyone seeking out these modules, make sure the part number of your board is 501-5673, or you won't be able to use the 480MHz procs. That's the only version that supports the highest speed. That's why I remember coming across them--the testbed available to me couldn't make use of them and it became a big deal at the time to source an upgraded board before a deadline. Hope that helps, -A From benjamin.lewis@belgacom.net Thu Mar 29 08:53:30 2007 From: benjamin.lewis@belgacom.net (Ben Lewis) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:53:30 +0200 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] UNIX Wizard? In-Reply-To: References: <3E36AD3F-784F-45EE-8F97-A4AC664A3E8D@adelphia.net> Message-ID: Hello Folks I've been searching for a copy of this poster for years! Just found this high(ish) res scan, the first I've seen to appear on the net :- http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/unix-magic-overacre-poster.jpg Quick Batman, to the A3 colour laser printer! Best regards Ben PS Now how do I add custom wallpaper in CDE again? http://www.sungames.com/CDE-wallpaper.html If you have root: Pick the image that you would like tiled all over your background. Use Applications -> Image Viewer to open the file, and then save it as .xpm format. mkdir /etc/dt/backdrops chmod 755 /etc/dt/backdrops cp yourimage.xpm /etc/dt/backdrops chmod 755 /etc/dt/backdrops/yourimage.xpm Log out, log back in, and it should appear in the list of backdrops you can pick. The image will be an available selection for all users on your system. If you don't have root: Create the .xpm file as above, then mkdir ~/.dt/backdrops cp yourimage.xpm ~/.dt/backdrops Exit CDE, log in again, and your image will be a valid wallpaper selection for your id henceforth. From huge@huge.org.uk Thu Mar 29 17:27:56 2007 From: huge@huge.org.uk (Huge) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:27:56 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Free Sun stuff (UK) In-Reply-To: <20070329170524.858E193D8@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070329170524.858E193D8@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <1175189275.778.18.camel@apophis> I have some Sun stuff that people are welcome to, but You Must Come and Collect It. No, I will not ship it. Don't even ask. I'm near J14 on the M1. 4mm DAT drive in desktop enclosure (plus a big bagfull of tapes, if someone can tell me how to bulk erase them, otherwise they'll have to be destroyed.) Narrow SCSI. DC6150 tape drive, ditto. Very slow (2x ???) desktop CD drive, narrow SCSI. Sun 19" CRT monitor. Sony trinitron. 13W3 connector. Huge. Heavy. Good picture, though. SPARCstation 10. Not sure how much memory/disk it has, but it has either Solaris 9 or 10 freshly installed. (If anyone's that interested I can fire it up and find it. Apologies to the bloke who emailed me last time, but I lost your address.) I have assorted narrow SCSI cables & terminators, 13W3 cables, and various SBUS cards (mainly graphics adaptors, processors and a Magma serial card) too. But I really do mean that you must collect. Requests for shipping costs will be ignored. H. From blewis3@alcatel-lucent.com Fri Mar 30 07:23:31 2007 From: blewis3@alcatel-lucent.com (Lewis, Benjamin (Ben)) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:23:31 +0200 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Free Sun stuff (UK) In-Reply-To: <1175189275.778.18.camel@apophis> References: <20070329170524.858E193D8@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1175189275.778.18.camel@apophis> Message-ID: <94333A1BF0D2684081652E54E0DE9E9890289E@DEEXC1U01.de.lucent.com> >But I really do mean that you must collect. Requests for shipping costs will be ignored. I like this one, I think it was on this list where somebody posted "I will not even help you carry it to your car". I just gave away some Lambretta scooter accessories by advertising on a local scooter club forum. What a nightmare. It was so much hassle, four people replied but none could make it any time I was at home and I ended up taking an afternoon off work to be at home when they called. Next time I think I'll hang on to the stuff.=20 Best regards Ben From pjcreath+openbios@gmail.com Fri Mar 30 16:14:45 2007 From: pjcreath+openbios@gmail.com (Peter) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:14:45 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Does anybody have the SuperSPARC User's Guide? Message-ID: This document is sufficiently out of print that Sun no longer has any record of it, and TI (who manufactured the TMS390Z50 SuperSPARC) only has a record of it as "unavailable". It's possible that it was on a CD distributed with early SPARCstations, as a PostScript file. Does anybody have a copy? From sastevens@earthlink.net Sat Mar 31 01:43:14 2007 From: sastevens@earthlink.net (Scott Stevens) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:43:14 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Free Sun stuff (UK) In-Reply-To: <94333A1BF0D2684081652E54E0DE9E9890289E@DEEXC1U01.de.lucent.com> References: <20070329170524.858E193D8@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1175189275.778.18.camel@apophis> <94333A1BF0D2684081652E54E0DE9E9890289E@DEEXC1U01.de.lucent.com> Message-ID: <20070330214314.a7a9812d.sastevens@earthlink.net> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:23:31 +0200 "Lewis, Benjamin \(Ben\)" wrote: > >But I really do mean that you must collect. Requests for shipping costs > will be ignored. > > I like this one, I think it was on this list where somebody posted "I > will not even help you carry it to your car". > I was glad when the guy I got my SparcServer 1000 from (and the equally heavy Array Storage Box) helped me put it in my car. I'm off to a University Auction tomorrow. Last one I went to, I didn't pay enough attention to the skid lots, and I am pretty certain the people I saw hauling a whole bunch of Blade 100 boxes to their truck got them all for ~$100... And knowing who they were, I am certain they were just stripped for drives and memory. Wish me luck, and if I get a windfall of similar hardware tomorrow I will likely 'spread it around' to the list at cost + shipping. From sastevens@earthlink.net Sat Mar 31 01:58:28 2007 From: sastevens@earthlink.net (Scott Stevens) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:58:28 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Does anybody have the SuperSPARC User's Guide? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070330215828.ea482ca6.sastevens@earthlink.net> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:14:45 -0400 Peter wrote: > This document is sufficiently out of print that Sun no longer has any > record of it, and TI (who manufactured the TMS390Z50 SuperSPARC) only > has a record of it as "unavailable". It's possible that it was on a > CD distributed with early SPARCstations, as a PostScript file. > > Does anybody have a copy? This is little off topic (except I do now have the Sun 386i that I am in the process of bringing up), but even a document that should be 'dirt common': Intel's "80386DX Microprocessor Programmer's Reference Manual" is now nearly completely unobtainable. It was never a PDF or Postscript that I can find, and the only thing extant online is a bare .TXT file rendering of it. Luckily I have copies of it in two print editions. From Keywords: ; Sat Mar 31 08:51:23 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:51:23 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Does anybody have the SuperSPARC User's Guide? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Peter wrote: > This document is sufficiently out of print that Sun no longer has any > record of it, and TI (who manufactured the TMS390Z50 SuperSPARC) only > has a record of it as "unavailable". It's possible that it was on a > CD distributed with early SPARCstations, as a PostScript file. Mike Spooner who's created the Mbus CPU module guide which Bill Bradford (g'day Bill if you read this list!) hosts at "http://mbus.sunhelp.org" might know more about this or even have the document already available in some sort of electronic format. Regards, Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu".