From tedp@iprimus.com.au Wed Aug 1 02:40:51 2007 From: tedp@iprimus.com.au (Ted Palmer) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:40:51 +1000 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Apple Terminal In-Reply-To: <0B8065E7-204D-4019-9EDB-71FA61E1C973@belgacom.net> Message-ID: <000001c7d3dc$ff288560$6a01a8c0@century> Ben wrote: > All this talk lately about using old Apple machines as serial > terminals came to a head this weekend when a friend emailed me these > links saying "Seen these?" [...] I must have missed that thread. I have dealt enough with serial terminals over the years to have no remaining fascination for them. I still have a genuine VT101 taking up space somewhere and a clone VT220 unit. The VT101 probably uses more power and makes more heat than a hyperactive Pentium 4. If I feel the need to carry a portable terminal, a Palm Vx with a custom serial cable and a bit of software can do the job. Seeing the serial boot output from a headless Sun server is about the only use for it I can think of. I think I might have used a modem with the Palm once to remotely dial into my 386 PC (running a UUCP leaf node on Coherent OS) just for the hell of it. Using the Palm screen is only slightly less cumbersome than trying to type on an original VT10x keyboard. I think the most pointless thing I did with the VT101 was to redirect the command line console of a Windows 3.0 system to the serial port. It's not as easy as it sounds and not really useful anyway. Mister_T From sasteven@freeshell.org Wed Aug 1 04:17:12 2007 From: sasteven@freeshell.org (Scott Stevens) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:17:12 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Apple Terminal In-Reply-To: <0B8065E7-204D-4019-9EDB-71FA61E1C973@belgacom.net> References: <0B8065E7-204D-4019-9EDB-71FA61E1C973@belgacom.net> Message-ID: <20070731231712.6a69310e.sasteven@freeshell.org> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:56:21 +0200 Ben Lewis wrote: > Hello Folks > > All this talk lately about using old Apple machines as serial > terminals came to a head this weekend when a friend emailed me these > links saying "Seen these?" > > http://www.dataswamp.net/apple2eserialterm/ > > http://www.bytecellar.com/archives/000113.php > > Not to be outdone I whipped up my own creation and sent him a picture > right back :- > > http://www.ipcress.net/images/ColourClassicTerminal.jpg > > That's NSCA Telnet running on Mac OS System 7. Thinking that serial > connections were now old hat I fitted a TCP/IP network card from an > old Performa and installed the Apple Open Transport extensions and > hey presto, "it just works" :) > > Ok I know it's not rocket science but it whiled away a rainy sunday > afternoon. > Mine is an X-terminal. http://sasteven.multics.org/MacSE30/MacSE30.html I don't know if you can even run NetBSD on a Color Classic. An SE/30 is a far superior machine for that purpose. It was awhile later before Apple produced any hardware better than the SE/30, imho. From angusf@mac.com Wed Aug 1 14:32:10 2007 From: angusf@mac.com (Angus Fox) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:32:10 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Apple Terminal In-Reply-To: <20070731231712.6a69310e.sasteven@freeshell.org> References: <0B8065E7-204D-4019-9EDB-71FA61E1C973@belgacom.net> <20070731231712.6a69310e.sasteven@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <1407AECE-A799-4D4A-AEB7-8DABF5C32FF9@mac.com> On 1 Aug 2007, at 04:17, Scott Stevens wrote: > > I don't know if you can even run NetBSD on a Color Classic. An SE/ > 30 is a far superior machine for that purpose. It was awhile later > before Apple produced any hardware better than the SE/30, imho. > When I worked at 'TOPS' the Apple Networking division of Sun Microsystems (unbelievable but true), my two main computers were an SE/30 and a Sun 386i. I loved them both, and we had an AppleTalk enabled version of the Sun Kernel provided by TOPS for the Sun which allowed the Sun machines to be file servers on a TOPS AppleTalk based network. TOPS had its own 'fast AppleTalk' 'FlashTalk' chip as used on the PC AppleTalk cards which- was going to be on the SPARCstation1 but it was buggy and got pulled before first customer ship. Getting back to the off topic :-) TOPS used to have a Mac based Telnet like product for AppleTalk called TOPS Terminal, which used AppleTalk not TCP/IP and consequently did not require MacTCP to get it to work but it did I think require an AppleTalk to Ethernet Gateway like a Shiva/Kinetics Fastpath to make it work. I probably still have a copy somewhere if anyone wants it. It was public domain anyway and Id just about forgotten about it till this thread reminded me. -- Angus Fox angusf@mac.com From ethan.dicks@gmail.com Wed Aug 1 15:02:09 2007 From: ethan.dicks@gmail.com (Ethan Dicks) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:02:09 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Apple Terminal In-Reply-To: <000001c7d3dc$ff288560$6a01a8c0@century> References: <0B8065E7-204D-4019-9EDB-71FA61E1C973@belgacom.net> <000001c7d3dc$ff288560$6a01a8c0@century> Message-ID: On 7/31/07, Ted Palmer wrote: > Ben wrote: > > > All this talk lately about using old Apple machines as serial > > terminals came to a head this weekend when a friend emailed me these > > links saying "Seen these?" > > I have dealt enough with serial terminals over the years to have no > remaining fascination for them. I used to be on dumb terminals 8-10 hrs/day, but I still find them preferable to some environments. > I still have a genuine VT101 taking up space somewhere and a clone > VT220 unit. I have (and use) a variety of terminals - most recently, a tiny Planar Systems "ELT-320" - 7" Electroluminescent flat panel, VT-320 features. I have a VT220 hanging off of a PDP-8/L, using its now-impossible-to-find 20mA port. Dumb terminals have their uses - I like the fact that they come up quickly (especially without a tube), and do exactly what they are supposed to do. No emulation problems, no extra features... you type, it displays. > The VT101 probably uses more power and makes more heat > than a hyperactive Pentium 4. A VT101 consumes about 150W. If your Pentium 4 has an LCD panel, I'll accept that it might use less power, but not by much. While a light-loaded system doesn't max out the PSU, modern machines can supply hundreds of watts (and don't forget to add in the CRT or LCD on the PC at 50W to 150W all by itself, depending on the size/technology). Even a laptop isn't that much better than a VT100 - most modern laptops come with 90W power supplies to charge the battery, and sometimes a 70W travel adapter that will power the laptop but not charge the battery. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article28-page4.html http://vt100.net/docs/tp83/chapter5.html As for heat - it's entirely possible that a 1980s 150W PSU throws more heat than a modern 300W PSU, but if you add in the PC display, I think it's a wash... plus the terminal is ready to use in seconds, and the PC, no matter what OS, takes considerable time to boot. > If I feel the need to carry a portable terminal, a Palm Vx with a > custom serial cable and a bit of software can do the job. Done that with a Palm III. At that job, it was easier than finding a place to balance a laptop, which is what the other guys tried to do. > Seeing the serial boot output from a headless Sun server is about > the only use for it I can think of. I used my Palm III to reconfigure some Cisco gear. The tech crew was standing around, discussing what needed to be done, and as the boss was waiting for one of us to fetch a laptop, I pulled the Palm out, and was done before he could ask what I was doing. When he _did_ ask, I showed him the results on the Palm and his reaction was worth carrying the gear around. ;-) > I think I might have used a modem with the Palm once to remotely > dial into my 386 PC (running a UUCP leaf node on Coherent OS) just > for the hell of it. Wow. Adding modems to the mix makes it a bit more painful. > Using the Palm screen is only slightly less cumbersome than trying > to type on an original VT10x keyboard. I completely disagree. The one thing that I didn't like about the Palm was that the screen could only practically show 1/4 of the screen at once. > I think the most pointless thing I did with the VT101 was to redirect > the command line console of a Windows 3.0 system to the serial port. > It's not as easy as it sounds and not really useful anyway. That sounds painful all by itself. Back when I used my Amiga 1000 every day, I plugged my VT220 into it, fired off the AmigaOS equivalent of a getty ('newshell AUX:'), then wrote C programs on the terminal while my housemates played "Silent Service" with the monitor/mouse/keyboard. The last time I plugged a dumb terminal into a UNIX box was when I was running klh10, a PDP-10 (36 bit) emulator, and the regular xterm window wasn't VT100-compatible enough to run emacs. I fired off a getty, plugged in some brand-X terminal that was lying around, and, true to the nature of a dumb terminal, it rendered the control sequences perfectly, something that many emulators have problems with. Referencing back to the original examples, if I wanted to press classic gear into service as a terminal, I'd probably dig out a CBM 8032, 80 column PET, and an IEEE-488 serial adapter, but except as a demonstration, I don't see the point. When I was using a C-64 to connect to CompuServe, about 25 years ago, I _wished_ I could have afforded a VT101; I don't see why I'd want to return to the days of connecting to the outer world through a 1MHz 6502. -ethan From silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com Tue Aug 7 12:47:20 2007 From: silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com (silvercreekvalley) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 04:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sun Multibus Message-ID: <61925.28008.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Its a long shot :) - but does anyone have any spare Sun related Multibus cards. I'm currently restoring an old Sun, but many cards have proved difficult to repair (memory cards failing, etc). I do have other Sun parts to trade or can pay if its not too much.. Also does anyone have any manuals for the early multibus cards. I've found quite a bit on the web, but quite a bit is missing - particularly info on the early graphic cards setup, etc. All the best Ian. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From huge@huge.org.uk Tue Aug 7 21:33:19 2007 From: huge@huge.org.uk (Huge) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:33:19 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 386i software In-Reply-To: <20070807160520.B521B93C9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070807160520.B521B93C9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <1186518799.994.48.camel@anubis> I've just found a DC6150 cartridge with some 386i software on it, to whit; Mosaic X11R5p125 gcc-2.4.5 gzip-1.2.4 ntalk ppp-1.2 rzsz9305 tcsh-6.03 xloadimage xplaygizmo xv-3.00a There's some source, some binary only. Anyone want it? Email me before it goes in the trash. From andre@purplecow.org Wed Aug 8 01:01:55 2007 From: andre@purplecow.org (Andre van Eyssen) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:01:55 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 386i software In-Reply-To: <1186518799.994.48.camel@anubis> References: <20070807160520.B521B93C9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1186518799.994.48.camel@anubis> Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Huge wrote: > I've just found a DC6150 cartridge with some 386i software on it, to > whit; > > Mosaic > X11R5p125 > gcc-2.4.5 > gzip-1.2.4 > ntalk > ppp-1.2 > rzsz9305 > tcsh-6.03 > xloadimage > xplaygizmo > xv-3.00a > > There's some source, some binary only. > > Anyone want it? Email me before it goes in the trash. If any of this isn't obtainable online, it might be worth getting it up on a website somewhere so it doesn't go missing. For example, Mosiac and X11. -- Andre van Eyssen. "the only value you can add to a banana is a bruise" -- McNealy. From earl@baugh.org Wed Aug 8 04:56:25 2007 From: earl@baugh.org (earl@baugh.org) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:56:25 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re: Suns-at-Home digest, Vol 1 #558 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <20070807160511.83C3F93CE@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070807160511.83C3F93CE@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: <0D0DEFE4-082A-44D2-91B7-FB1DAFEDA8EA@baugh.org> > Its a long shot :) - but does anyone have any spare Sun related > Multibus cards. > I'm currently restoring an old Sun, but many cards have proved > difficult to repair (memory cards failing, etc). > > I do have other Sun parts to trade or can pay if its not too much.. > > Also does anyone have any manuals for the early multibus cards. > I've found quite a bit on the web, but quite a bit is missing - > particularly > info on the early graphic cards setup, etc. > > All the best > > Ian. Ian, Well, I've got a Sun 2/120 here, and a Sun 3 that I'm in the middle of restoring. I've got some work to do on the 2/120 (I'm looking for the original face plate... I've got all the metal skins, but not the front plastic part) but it was functional when I got it... though there may be some issues with the power supply. In a week or so, I'm going to pick up a 1/4 van full of Sun 3 parts (which may include some multibus cards... I've seen some that were in some adapters for VME slots). Once I get the pile of stuff and find out what I actually have, I'll be posting about the extra pieces here and a couple of other lists... You mentioned memory cards, anything else you need? Also, I've got Sun FEH's that go back to Sun 1's... parts of it are dated in the late 80's, so it's been fairly handy. I'm staring at a page for a Sun 2 Color Video card, so it's got stuff back to that era. I don't have it scanned, but can probably help out if you've got part numbers... Earl From raub@ufl.edu Thu Aug 9 05:03:30 2007 From: raub@ufl.edu (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:03:30 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] sunpci ii fan Message-ID: <46BA9212.4010208@ufl.edu> How can I find out if the stupid fan is working in the sunpci ii card? The cmos tells me it is not but I do not know if I can trust it... From cmorey+suns_at_home@random-chaos.org.uk Fri Aug 10 11:00:53 2007 From: cmorey+suns_at_home@random-chaos.org.uk (Colin Morey) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:00:53 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Free to good Sun home in UK: Sun monitor In-Reply-To: <3E75A16B.32DF815D@eoin.demon.co.uk> References: <3E75A16B.32DF815D@eoin.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <1186740054.18937.7.camel@koch.hep.man.ac.uk> On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 10:20 +0000, Jon Laughton wrote: > I have a Sun GDM-1962B, 19" Trinitron monitor which a UK Sun enthusisast > can have if they would like to collect it. > The date of manufacture is March 1993 and the image quality is very > good. The monitor is excellent cosmetically and very clean (cos I just > cleaned it.) Working till very recently on my olde IPX. Unfortunately, > no monitor or power cable. Located in N Bucks (nr J14 M1.) > > Please e-mail me at > > Thanks > > Jon Laughton > > PS This is quite a heavy monitor to lift/carry. Yes, this is an old email to reply to, but my use for this monitor has ended, i'm just not using any of the old sparc equipment i have lying around and if i _need_ a sync-on-green i have an old 17" sun monitor to do the job. details are as above, please email me if you would like it, otherwise it will go on freecycle, and thence to the tip. Collection will be from Warrington, or possibly Manchester for the next few days. If i'm feeling generous then i may be able to deliver it to somewhere reasonable for petrol money. It was working when i last powered it up, but i'd have to double check as it's been sat around for a while. Cheers, Colin Morey From chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Mon Aug 13 19:17:31 2007 From: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:17:31 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Ancient shoeboxen Message-ID: I have a couple of ancient Sun Shoeboxen, each with a 110MB Disc and a QIC-24 tape drive. The discs appear not to rotate (probably gummed up with years of non-use). One hears various clicks etc, which seem to indicate that it makes about 3 attempts to start and then gives up. I have tried giving a good clout with a hammer, but no improvement. Prob-SCSI recognises the device, but format declines to recognise the existence of that disc. Any suggestions? With othing to lose, I might even try opening up the disc. The QIC-24 suffers from a pinch roller where the rubber has turned into sticky goo (I have 3 such drives, and they have all gone that way, so it seems a generic fault). I have been offered new pinchrollers at £17+carriage+VAT, which seems a touch high. Is that a reasonable price? I have a couple of ancient tapes that I need to read, but once that is done the shoeboxen are no further use to me (but might be to a collector af antique Sun stuff). If anybody here would be interested in them (Manchester, UK), then I might go to the trouble of buying 2 pinch rollers. I also have a genuine 'dimple-top' B&W monitor with spares and various other relevant bits and pieces which I might be wanting to part with in the next week or so. -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131     Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk      Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9      Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 From chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Mon Aug 13 19:22:11 2007 From: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:22:11 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] SS-5 and NVRAM Message-ID: I have a Sparcstation 5 which, after being switched off for some months, appears to have lost its clock (i.e. on booting, its starts off with the date/time as last seen). OTOH, the NVRAM does not seem completely dead, since it still knows the serial number and the ethernet number. So it is possible that the battery is dying but has not fully died yet? I had always supposed that these things either worked, or they didn't, but this seems half-and-half. -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131     Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk      Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9      Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 From raub@ufl.edu Tue Aug 14 02:51:58 2007 From: raub@ufl.edu (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:51:58 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 386i software In-Reply-To: References: <20070807160520.B521B93C9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1186518799.994.48.camel@anubis> Message-ID: <46C10ABE.3040708@ufl.edu> Andre van Eyssen wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Huge wrote: > >> I've just found a DC6150 cartridge with some 386i software on it, to >> whit; >> >> Mosaic >> X11R5p125 >> gcc-2.4.5 >> gzip-1.2.4 >> ntalk >> ppp-1.2 >> rzsz9305 >> tcsh-6.03 >> xloadimage >> xplaygizmo >> xv-3.00a >> >> There's some source, some binary only. >> >> Anyone want it? Email me before it goes in the trash. > > If any of this isn't obtainable online, it might be worth getting it up > on a website somewhere so it doesn't go missing. For example, Mosiac and > X11. > I agree. Do read it out and put it somewhere others could use it. If you can't, I will take them and find a way to suck the files out. From lbickley@bickleywest.com Tue Aug 14 05:11:03 2007 From: lbickley@bickleywest.com (Lyle Bickley) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:11:03 -0700 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] SS-5 and NVRAM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200708132111.04752.lbickley@bickleywest.com> On Monday 13 August 2007 11:22, Charles Lindsey wrote: > I have a Sparcstation 5 which, after being switched off for some months, > appears to have lost its clock (i.e. on booting, its starts off with the > date/time as last seen). OTOH, the NVRAM does not seem completely dead, > since it still knows the serial number and the ethernet number. So it is > possible that the battery is dying but has not fully died yet? I had > always supposed that these things either worked, or they didn't, but this > seems half-and-half. I've observed several Sparcs having the same behavior. They work for awhile - and intermittently loose their "mind" as a result of a failing NVRAM. You can either replace the NVRAM (IIRC, Jameco still carries the NVRAM "chips") or the NVRAM battery as described in the FAQs. Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero" From adam@scan.mc.xerox.com Wed Aug 15 18:45:09 2007 From: adam@scan.mc.xerox.com (Adam Stein) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:45:09 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] FS: Sun Ultra 30 Workstation (with extras) - Rochester, NY Message-ID: <1187199911.14689.200.camel@chroma> Sun Ultra 30 Creator Workstation for sale (located in Rochester, NY). This is a Sun Ultra 30 UPA/PCI (UltraSPARC-II 296 MHz) machine. Features included: o Solaris 5.8 Generic_108528-13 installed o SunPCI (v1.3) installed o OpenBoot upgraded to v3.27 (to enable SunPCI) SunPCI is setup and ready to run. Currently runs an install of Windows 98 SE v4.10.2222 A. The SunPCI board has an AMD K6 cpu and 64 MB memory. Complete Inventory: ------------------ o Ultra 30 Creator workstation o 128 MB memory o internal 4GB disk o Sun monitor (15") o type 5c keyboard / mouse o 1 2GB Jaz drive (SCSI) o 8 2GB Jaz disks (all formatted with filesystems) o 1 9GB external SCSI disk (formatted with filesystem) o internal CDROM o internal floppy drive o Sun microphone o all necessary SCSI, network, & power cables to hook it up immediately o 2 Solaris 8 CDs (containing the version that's currently installed) o Solaris 2.6 CDs o Ultra 30 manuals I'll also throw in 2 Ricoh internal CD RW drives. They have never been connected. Not sure if they even work (they are supposed to). They are yours to play with. Upon initial power on, this machine can be configured to be up and running immediately. Selling for $150 or BO. -- Adam Stein @ Xerox Corporation Email: adam@scan.mc.xerox.com Disclaimer: All views expressed here have been proved to be my own. [http://www.csh.rit.edu/~adam/] From walter+rescue@belgers.com Fri Aug 17 17:37:03 2007 From: walter+rescue@belgers.com (Walter Belgers) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:37:03 +0200 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] 386i software In-Reply-To: <46C10ABE.3040708@ufl.edu> References: <20070807160520.B521B93C9@tigger.net-kitchen.com> <1186518799.994.48.camel@anubis> <46C10ABE.3040708@ufl.edu> Message-ID: <20070817163703.GA44020@teletubbie.het.net.je> Mauricio Tavares wrote: > >>I've just found a DC6150 cartridge with some 386i software on it, to > >>whit; I have some 386i packages. I've made them temporarily available via ftp.belgers.com (user 'walter' password 'rescue'). Please get them while they're still there :) Cc: to rescue list Cheers, Walter. -- Walter Belgers -=- Netherlands -=- walter@belgers.com -=- http://gigawa.lt/ From elbeesley@btinternet.com Sun Aug 19 07:04:25 2007 From: elbeesley@btinternet.com (Kris Collins) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:04:25 -0200 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re[28]: Ciaaaaaaliiis Viaaaaaagraaa Leeeeeevitra. Preise die keine Konkurrenz kennen Message-ID: <01c7e216$0825ee90$eb744855@elbeesley> Hallo , suns-at-home ! Meinung von unserem Kunden: Ich nehme jedes Mal 10 mg (dabei zerteile eine 20 mg Tablette in 2 Teile) und nach 15 bis 20 Minuten werde ich irre geil. Bei einer sexueller Anregung bekomme ich sofort EINEN SEHR HARTEN SCHWANZ. ER wird dabei GRÖSSER UND DICKER als in meiner Jugend, ich bin SEHR AUSDAUERND UND KANN DEN ZEIPUNKT MEINES ORGASMUS BESTIMMEN. DIES FINDET JEDE FRAU NATÜRLICH SEHR SCHÖN. Ich habe vor kurzem Viaaaagra benutzt und ich muss sagen: Ich liebe Viaaaagra. Das ist der Fickmacher. 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From therichards@btconnect.com Sun Aug 19 06:05:47 2007 From: therichards@btconnect.com (Tammi Mann) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 04:05:47 -0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Re[f5]: Ciaaaaaaliiis Viaaaaaagraaa Leeeeeevitra. Preise die keine Konkurrenz kennen Message-ID: <575497980.02676771998910@btconnect.com> Hallo , suns-at-home ! Meinung von unserem Kunden: Ich nehme jedes Mal 10 mg (dabei zerteile eine 20 mg Tablette in 2 Teile) und nach 15 bis 20 Minuten werde ich irre geil. Bei einer sexueller Anregung bekomme ich sofort EINEN SEHR HARTEN SCHWANZ. ER wird dabei GRÖSSER UND DICKER als in meiner Jugend, ich bin SEHR AUSDAUERND UND KANN DEN ZEIPUNKT MEINES ORGASMUS BESTIMMEN. DIES FINDET JEDE FRAU NATÜRLICH SEHR SCHÖN. Ich habe vor kurzem Viaaaagra benutzt und ich muss sagen: Ich liebe Viaaaagra. Das ist der Fickmacher. Das Alter hat nix damit zu tun. Ich bin zwar noch jung, aber die Viaaaagra-Power kann auch durch junge Kraft nicht ersetzt werden. Das war der Hammer. 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Pump.kin j-uice sp.read stead__ily o+v,e.r t-h*e ta_ble cloth, s ta.ining sev+eral f.e_e t of whit-e li+nen oran-ge, b+u+t Her,mion-e p,a_i-d no att'en+tion. From silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 09:18:08 2007 From: silvercreekvalley@yahoo.com (silvercreekvalley) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] WTD IPX Message-ID: <310561.91004.qm@web56214.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Looking for an IPX if anyone has one. This is basically so I can fit the unit in a very small space. I'm currently using a RDI PowerLite (laptop) which is great, but the external video is a bit flakey (LCD is fine). Ian. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From earl@baugh.org Wed Aug 22 04:04:01 2007 From: earl@baugh.org (earl@baugh.org) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:04:01 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] VME Boards and Sparcstation 1/1+ for Trade and/or pickup Message-ID: <2421A0C6-6164-4879-B199-D63A5FC28C8A@baugh.org> I recently went to FL and made a rescue of some old Sun VME parts. I'm working on building a 3/110 and a 4/110, but had an all or nothing rescue, so I've now got stuff to trade and/or have folks rescue. So, here's what I have: For Trade or $$ 501-1447 TAAC-1 System Accelerator DFB Board 501-1153 Ethernet VME (Intel ethernet chip) (multi-bus card in adapter) 501-1153 Ethernet VME (Intel ethernet chip) (multi-bus card in adapter) 501-1316 4/3xx VME CPU board 501-1316 4/3xx VME CPU board 501-1381 4/4xx VME CPU board 501-1563 4/3xx VME memory (1M or 4M SIMMs, max 48M/192M) 501-1447 TAAC-1 accelerator, DFB board, VME 501-1269 (mount only) VME 3x2 Adapter Assembly, with P2 A&C, Option 1 60A Type 3 Keyboard with mouse For Pickup Sparc 1 Sparc 1+ x 2 Type 4 Keyboard (with optical mouse) x 2 I'm in the Atlanta area (zip 30005). Earl From chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Thu Aug 23 17:30:47 2007 From: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:30:47 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sparcstation 5 power suppky Message-ID: I have a SS5, ans managed to short out the +5v supply. Now it is dead. But I looked in vain for any fuse that might have blown, or cutout that might need resetting. Is there any description of this PS available anywhere, or any suggestion for obvious things to try? I cannot imagine that is was designed that such a simple fault would not have an easy fix. There is even a warning inside it to tell you to ensure that you always replace fuses with the proper value - which would be a fine thing if I could locate any fuses :-( . -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131     Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk      Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9      Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 From Keywords: ; Thu Aug 23 23:11:31 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:11:31 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sparcstation 5 power suppky In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Charles Lindsey wrote: > I have a SS5, ans managed to short out the +5v supply. Now it is dead. > > But I looked in vain for any fuse that might have blown, or cutout that might > need resetting. > > Is there any description of this PS available anywhere, or any suggestion for > obvious things to try? I cannot imagine that is was designed that such a > simple fault would not have an easy fix. There is even a warning inside it to > tell you to ensure that you always replace fuses with the proper value - > which would be a fine thing if I could locate any fuses :-( . I don't know if it'll help, but for quite a while Oatley Electronics here in Sydney Australia has been advertising Sun SS5/20 power supplies (501-1279's - the later version) and Javastation 10 (ie. 'Krups') power supplies on it's website for a low price. Lets see if I can find them... Yep here they are: http://secure.oatleyelectronics.com//product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=408&osCsid=92bf747eec0d0111cdec2b9dce8590c5 http://secure.oatleyelectronics.com//product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=410&osCsid=92bf747eec0d0111cdec2b9dce8590c5 I have no idea what their stocks are like, or what condition the power supplies are in. They might have done what I used to do when I got offered big batches of junked SS5's which is take out the good components and toss the rusting chassis's and damaged system boards, etc. Power supplies are bad news because the steel rusts and if they're run for a very long time without cleaning, the build=up of dust makes water get trapped against the steel casing of the power supply, which encourages rust. sigh. Good reason to clean out power supplies and system enclosures in general at least one a year! 8-) Craig. -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From mj@turner.org.za Fri Aug 24 06:04:02 2007 From: mj@turner.org.za (Michael-John Turner) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:04:02 +0200 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sparcstation 5 power suppky In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070824050402.GA27027@aurora.pimp.org.za> On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 05:30:47PM +0100, Charles Lindsey wrote: > Is there any description of this PS available anywhere, or any suggestion > for obvious things to try? I cannot imagine that is was designed that such > a simple fault would not have an easy fix. There is even a warning inside > it to tell you to ensure that you always replace fuses with the proper > value - which would be a fine thing if I could locate any fuses :-( . If you're interested, I have a dead SS20 that I'm about to junk and I'm pretty certain it uses the same PSU as the SS5. You're most welcome to the PSU for the cost of shipping. I am in South Africa, but hopefully the shipping shouldn't be too expensive. -mj -- Michael-John Turner | http://mjturner.net/ mj@turner.org.za | Open Source in WC ZA - http://www.clug.org.za/ From adh@an.bradford.ma.us Fri Aug 24 14:35:45 2007 From: adh@an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sparcstation 5 power suppky Message-ID: <200708241335.l7ODZjF26082@an.bradford.ma.us> " From: Michael-John Turner " " On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 05:30:47PM +0100, Charles Lindsey wrote: " > Is there any description of this PS available anywhere, or any suggestion " > [] " " If you're interested, I have a dead SS20 that I'm about to junk and I'm " pretty certain it uses the same PSU as the SS5. chassis are exactly the same for ss5 and ss20 - ss4 too - only the system board and rear panel are different. most ss4 came with a dinky 50w ps but i have one 'ss4 server' that has the 150w. it's presently hosting my 300MHz usII sparcengine ultra 20... ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@an.bradford.ma.us and think what none thought From tfrazee@charter.net Fri Aug 24 18:23:56 2007 From: tfrazee@charter.net (Tim Frazee) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:23:56 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sparcstation 5 power suppky In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CF142C.3080308@charter.net> I have a dead 20 that I am willing to part out. Shipping would be from St Louis, MO, USA Charles Lindsey wrote: > I have a SS5, ans managed to short out the +5v supply. Now it is dead. > > But I looked in vain for any fuse that might have blown, or cutout > that might need resetting. > > Is there any description of this PS available anywhere, or any > suggestion for obvious things to try? I cannot imagine that is was > designed that such a simple fault would not have an easy fix. There is > even a warning inside it to tell you to ensure that you always replace > fuses with the proper value - which would be a fine thing if I could > locate any fuses :-( . > From gdk@mail.suomi.net Sun Aug 26 06:05:12 2007 From: gdk@mail.suomi.net (Jarto Nieminen) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:05:12 +0300 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Ultra 10 IDE In-Reply-To: <20070106185906.GB28856@katana.pimp.org.za> References: <6DDE60A2-E927-4482-816F-8F49C3C4B0D5@xenrix.net> <20070106185906.GB28856@katana.pimp.org.za> Message-ID: <29C40639-6B2C-4AAB-8D20-A042C27F2B5E@mail.suomi.net> On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:59 PM, Michael-John Turner wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 06:11:55PM +1100, Eric Rudolph Pizzani wrote: >> I was wondering, is there anyway, anyway at all of fixing the >> performance flaws of the Ultra 10's IDE? > > Not AFAIK, no - it's just plain broken. You may be able to get the > PROM to > boot from a PCI IDE card, but I've not tried it myself. The card > would also > have to be supported by whatever OS you're using - the open source > OSes > would certainly work, but I'm not sure about Solaris. See > http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/sparc64/faq.html#pci-cards for details. > >> Failing that, how does one reflash a SCSI card so it can be used on a >> SPARC machine? I've got cards intended for an Alpha and for an x86 >> (Adaptec). > > I've read various stories about a near mythical Adaptec 294x-based > card > with OpenBoot support, but I've not seen any confirmation from > anyone who's > ever got one working in a Sun (I think the card was designed for Mac > systems). I have successfully made a PC Adaptec 2940UW work on a U5/10. Doing this is quite futile in light of the little advantage gained from the required amount of work and lack of support for the card in general on Solaris, especially in light of the fore mentioned link and I've heard rumors there's driver support for Silicon Image 0680 in Solaris 10. I do not know if this is an improvement, considering that the chip in U5/10 is a CMD 64x. CMD changed it's name after the fiasco to Silicon Image and you can probably deduce where 0680 gets it's name. In addition to this, considering running Solaris there are only drivers for 2.6.1 available from Adaptec's site, no one has made any better, and there's really no reason to. I'll still post what I remember about it, it was a long time ago. This is only useful if you've got a lot of time to kill and have nothing more to do. Initially there were three versions of the same card made and released. One for the PC, one for Mac and one for sun4u. The sun4u version and it's support was very quickly, nearly instantly, withdrawn and the ROM images are not available. However. Both Mac and Sun used the IEEE-1275 standard to initialize and manage their PCI hardware. So the idea is to flash a Mac firmware into a PC card. The procedure is tricky, will require a PCI Mac which can run the appropriate flashing software. I can remember if it needed Classic or could it be done from OS X. I did it a long time ago with a friend who had a mac. (at the time I didn't have one, nor had any interest in acquiring one) If I were to hazard a guess, you'll need a PCI Mac with OpenFirmware and OS 8/9. The mod is done as follows: Your 2940UW needs to be of old enough revision to have the required 1024Kb flash rom. You can check this by removing the sticker on top of the flash and looking up it's part number on the Internet. If it's not big enough, the flash is half the size. This is specifically due to the fact that the PC version of the card was much cheaper than the Mac version and converting between the two was easy. Download the _Macintosh_: OpenFirmware image and flashing tools from adaptec's site. You plug in the Adaptec card, fire up the rom update tool, which will autodetect the card unlike the Mac OS btw, and click ok and wait while the program does it's magic. If the flash was succeeds there's a chance you can use it on your U10. The version of 'OpenBoot' used by Apple on some of it's later models doesn't conform to the IEEE-1275 specifications, and I'm not entirely sure which versions of the Mac firmware work. As I said, it's been a very long time. Now, if the card works and is detected by your machine it should show up in the OpenFirmware prompt as 'ADPT' when you probe for the PCI slot it is in, to fully test wether it works, I suggest plugging in a SCSI device which should also show up when you use 'ls' to read the device tree. After this you need to do some OBP magic, mainly set the variables and aliases correctly in the firmware since the card is not directly supported by the integrated firmware (you need to do this with some Sun accessories for example even today. i.e. making Expert3D-Lite the main display on a Blade 100.) IMHO the U5/10 line is complete and utter crap from bottom to top, the 875 won't make it that much more faster anymore when it comes to using Solaris. The biggest bottle neck now is the CPU and especially the old and slow ram. It's a very cheaply made PC with a USPARC CPU bolted on it. And by today's standards a very outdated one. It doesn't have the nostalgia or superior build quality which you can see in sun4c/sun4m boxen nor are there any proper open source operating systems for it fi you are considering desktop usage. > By far the easiest approach is to get a SCSI card with the Symbios/LSI > Logic 875 chipset - it's supported by the PROM, so you'll be able > to boot > from it, etc. Any PCI card will do - OpenBoot contains support for the > chipset and the PC BIOS is ignored. I have one such card in my > Ultra 10 and > it works like a charm with NetBSD. > > -mj > -- > Michael-John Turner | http://mjturner.net/ > mj@turner.org.za | Open Source in WC ZA - http://www.clug.org.za/ > _______________________________________________ > Suns-at-Home mailing list > Suns-at-Home@net-kitchen.com > http://www.net-kitchen.com/mailman/listinfo/suns-at-home Jarto "meton" Nieminen gdk@mail.suomi.net From Keywords: ; Mon Aug 27 00:54:44 2007 From: Keywords: ; (Craig Dewick) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:54:44 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Ultra 10 IDE In-Reply-To: <29C40639-6B2C-4AAB-8D20-A042C27F2B5E@mail.suomi.net> References: <6DDE60A2-E927-4482-816F-8F49C3C4B0D5@xenrix.net> <20070106185906.GB28856@katana.pimp.org.za> <29C40639-6B2C-4AAB-8D20-A042C27F2B5E@mail.suomi.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Jarto Nieminen wrote: > I have successfully made a PC Adaptec 2940UW work on a U5/10. Sun actually recommended using a Symbios 8951 or 22801 card to add SCSI support to Ultra 5's and 10's, though I never tried it much. I actually have a bare Ultra-10 board sitting on rubber feet that I use occasionally with a bare power supply. One day I'll try to get SCSI working on it properly. Pic of the set up is here: http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1585 The system board has an Elite-3D plugged in to give a video output since at the time the serial ports on my workstation was used for something else. 8-) >> By far the easiest approach is to get a SCSI card with the Symbios/LSI >> Logic 875 chipset - it's supported by the PROM, so you'll be able to boot >> from it, etc. Any PCI card will do - OpenBoot contains support for the >> chipset and the PC BIOS is ignored. I have one such card in my Ultra 10 and >> it works like a charm with NetBSD. The tricky part is setting up the device paths since it's NOT supported by the default device aliases in the OBP, but if that's sorted out it should use SCSI ok. I remember trying it with a SCSI CD-ROM once and manually entering the device path more than a handful of times is annoying. 8-) Craig. PS. I upgraded from ISDN to ADSL recently so the Sunshack site should be a lot better to access now. Give the albums a go at "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2" and see how it goes. The web server (Cobalt raq-4i) is the bottleneck now since it's lacking RAM (got the max already). -- Post by Craig Dewick (tm). Web @ "http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick". Email 2 "cdewick@lios.apana.org.au". SunShack @ "http://www.sunshack.org" Galleries @ "http://www.sunshack.org/gallery2". Also lots of tech data, etc. Sun Microsystems webring at "http://n.webring.com/hub?ring=sunmicrosystemsu". From sun.mail.list@oryx.cc Mon Aug 27 04:41:18 2007 From: sun.mail.list@oryx.cc (Jerry Kemp) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:41:18 -0500 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Ultra 10 IDE In-Reply-To: References: <6DDE60A2-E927-4482-816F-8F49C3C4B0D5@xenrix.net> <20070106185906.GB28856@katana.pimp.org.za> <29C40639-6B2C-4AAB-8D20-A042C27F2B5E@mail.suomi.net> Message-ID: <46D247DE.1000507@oryx.cc> I have an Ultra 10 and used the Symbios SCSI card(s). For me, it did make a noticeable difference. And, IMHO, SCSI is always easier and more reliable to work with vs. the IDE drives of that time period. Honestly though, the Sun AXi motherboard was a better option for me at home. I couldn't afford the higher end system with built in SCSI. Jerry Craig Dewick wrote: > On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Jarto Nieminen wrote: > >> I have successfully made a PC Adaptec 2940UW work on a U5/10. > > Sun actually recommended using a Symbios 8951 or 22801 card to add SCSI > support to Ultra 5's and 10's, though I never tried it much. I actually > have a bare Ultra-10 board sitting on rubber feet that I use > occasionally with a bare power supply. One day I'll try to get SCSI > working on it properly. > From n2vip@verizon.net Mon Aug 27 12:51:47 2007 From: n2vip@verizon.net (n2vip@verizon.net) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:51:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Ultra 10 IDE Message-ID: <4316393.10097121188215507762.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net> >From: Craig Dewick >Date: 2007/08/26 Sun PM 06:54:44 CDT >Cc: suns-at-home@net-kitchen.com >Subject: Re: [Suns-at-Home] Ultra 10 IDE >The tricky part is setting up the device paths since it's NOT supported by >the default device aliases in the OBP, but if that's sorted out it should >use SCSI ok. I remember trying it with a SCSI CD-ROM once and manually >entering the device path more than a handful of times is annoying. 8-) I followed this document, and it went great (though I kept the CD-ROM as optical, and just went SCSI for the HD): http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~gerdts/ultra10-scsi.html The above document describes all the "trickery" to have "boot cdrom" and "boot disk" Just Do The Right Thing(r) Ken From chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Tue Aug 28 10:47:03 2007 From: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk (Charles Lindsey) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:47:03 +0100 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sparcstation 5 power supply In-Reply-To: <20070824160524.D808C93F3@tigger.net-kitchen.com> References: <20070824160524.D808C93F3@tigger.net-kitchen.com> Message-ID: > Message: 1 > To: Suns-at-home > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:30:47 +0100 > From: "Charles Lindsey" > Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Sparcstation 5 power suppky > > I have a SS5, ans managed to short out the +5v supply. Now it is dead. > > But I looked in vain for any fuse that might have blown, or cutout that > might need resetting. OK, I eventually got it working, so will relate the whole story in case it is of use to anyone else. Indeed, there are no fuses (except one on the outgoing mains supply to the monitor). And indeed much of the circuitry is "live" (and protected only by such fuses as may exist in the external mains supply) even when the PS is switched "off". There are a couple of transformers, and also various toroidal inductors wound with thick copper wire which I had assumed were filters to keep external noise out of the computer and noise generated by the computer out of the mains (and generally to keep the FCC happy). However, there is one big one, near the 'mains' end of the PS, that has several windings on it. Now there is a clear demarcation between the "primary" and "secondary" parts of the PS, and this particular toroid is clearly on the "primary" side, except for one two-turn winding which connects to the secondary side of things (presumably part of some feedback loop, since it is of much thinner wire). I remember, when I shorted out the supply, seeing a 'glow' in the region of one of these toroids, but it all happened too quickly to be sure. Now, on examining this two turn winding, the colour of its insulation seemed distinctly "off". And the odd thing about it was that its two wires were tightly bound together by a plastic clip before their connection to the PC board. So maybe, if a large current flowing through there had caused the insulation to get hot, it would have got even hotter inside the clip, and maybe allowed the two wires to short together. And so it turned out. Removed the clip, separated the wires, and Lo! the PS was working again. Effectively, that plastic clip had created a bizarre kind of 'fuse'. Bug or feature? -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131     Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk      Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9      Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 From arthur@ajb.com Fri Aug 31 03:06:54 2007 From: arthur@ajb.com (Arthur J. Byrnes) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:06:54 -0400 Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Customized Sun Boot CD/DVD Message-ID: <200708310206.l7V26t7E006219@ajb.com> Hi Folks, I have been trying to build a customized Solaris Sparc boot cd and dvd. Actually, I wanted to make a LiveCD suck as Knopix, but that seems like it will be a lot more work. There seems to be a Solaris LiveCD project, but its for pc, and its not very active. So, I want to make one a boot cd/dvd that has all the nuisance questions answered. (You know, time zone, networked, language, etc.) I will also do a few other things, like eliminating the part where it spends a bunch of time looking for network boot stuff. And will add/delete software that I want / don't want. That part doesn't seem too hard, since, from what I can see the boot process hasn't changed much between 7 and 9 (and maybe 10). But what does seem to be tough is burning the cd/dvd, since it seems that Sun partitions the cd, or as the pc folks say, mult-tracks it. I can burn the iso's from Sun, but once I edit them on the pc, they only burn as drink coasters... I've got no writers on any of my Suns, so I am stuck using XP. So, finally, my question, do any of you fine folks know of an iso editing program that can deal with the partitions/tracks? MagicIso and WinIso don't. Thanks for any help/suggestions that you can provide! Arthur ========================================= Arthur J. Byrnes Disclaimer; These views are those only of the author, Arthur. Be sure to visit my Web Site. http://www.ajb.com ========================================= From adh@an.bradford.ma.us Fri Aug 31 21:33:22 2007 From: adh@an.bradford.ma.us (Sandwich Maker) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Suns-at-Home] Customized Sun Boot CD/DVD Message-ID: <200708312033.l7VKXMe21805@an.bradford.ma.us> " From: "Arthur J. Byrnes" " " " I have been trying to build a customized Solaris Sparc boot cd and " dvd. Actually, I wanted to make a LiveCD suck as Knopix, but that " seems like it will be a lot more work. There seems to be a Solaris " LiveCD project, but its for pc, and its not very active. " " [] " " But what does seem to be tough is burning the cd/dvd, since it seems " that Sun partitions the cd, or as the pc folks say, mult-tracks " it. I can burn the iso's from Sun, but once I edit them on the pc, " they only burn as drink coasters... " " [] " " So, finally, my question, do any of you fine folks know of an iso " editing program that can deal with the partitions/tracks? MagicIso " and WinIso don't. " that's because the cd isn't a proper iso; it's actually formatted like a read-only hd, 512b block ufs. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@an.bradford.ma.us and think what none thought